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    Need a bit of help!

    I have a weird sound coming from the rear n/s wheel on my '06 vvt, it is most apparent at around 25-30mph and sounds a bit like a whirring/whining sound. It isn't constant - comes and goes but always there if that makes sense! Sort of 2 seconds on / 1 off. It almost sounds like a resonance - closest similar sound I can think of to describe it is either a tyre howl or a differential whine (but I guess it isn't as it's at the rear). Bizzarely it seems worse going downhill and better uphill Seems very dependent on the speed of the car, although I think I can hear it much fainter at a higher speed.

    My car does have a spot of tyre howl at motorway speeds - could this be a cause at such a low speed? I swapped the rear tyres over side to side and it's the same, nothing obviously seems to be catching although the o/s rear wheel does not seem to spin freely when jacked up and the handbrake off.

    The car has had light use only and has 39k miles on the clock.

    Anyone have any ideas?!

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    perhaps a stone stuck somewhere or ds not retracting back as they should

    I had an issue once with muck in the brake lines caused all sorts of issues like this

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    The rear of the car is less loaded going downhill and more loaded going uphill, I know it's not much difference, but it is there.
    Try putting a heavy weight in the boot and seeing if there is a difference.

    It is worth removing the brake caliper and spinning the wheel to check how the bearings feel.
    You can also free up and grease the pins the brake caliper slides on, plus you can remove the pads and check them, and check the disks too.

    At about 30k, I had a rub rub rub noise which got worse as I drove the car.
    It turned out to be a rear wheel bearing, but on the other side of the car from where I thought the noise came from!!
    I replaced both wheel bearings and the noise went.

    If you want to, and you have the equipment, you can try swapping the wheel bearings side to side, then the bearings will be going the opposite way round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    Hi all



    Need a bit of help!

    I have a weird sound coming from the rear n/s wheel on my '06 vvt, it is most apparent at around 25-30mph and sounds a bit like a whirring/whining sound. It isn't constant - comes and goes but always there if that makes sense! Sort of 2 seconds on / 1 off. It almost sounds like a resonance - closest similar sound I can think of to describe it is either a tyre howl or a differential whine (but I guess it isn't as it's at the rear). Bizzarely it seems worse going downhill and better uphill Seems very dependent on the speed of the car, although I think I can hear it much fainter at a higher speed.

    My car does have a spot of tyre howl at motorway speeds - could this be a cause at such a low speed? I swapped the rear tyres over side to side and it's the same, nothing obviously seems to be catching although the o/s rear wheel does not seem to spin freely when jacked up and the handbrake off.

    The car has had light use only and has 39k miles on the clock.

    Anyone have any ideas?!
    sounds like the tyres what make are they ?

    i brought my vectra in 2006 and the dronning noise was very anoying i did a first thought it was a bearing gone
    i didnt enjoy the car until i read these posts on here and i changed the 2 rear tyres to good year excellence
    what a difference it made to the car no dronning at all now so i brought another 2 for the front and ive kept it since
    ive had it nearly 6 years now

    im so glad the dronning has gone this thread made my decision to change my tyres



    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showth...light=dronning

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    I checked the brakes and the o/s rears were binding so took it to the dealer and they said 'yes that will cause it'.... they cleaned and freed the brakes but sadly the noise is still there. I've jacked the rears up and can't see anything, no unusual noise when the wheel is spun, no rocking or movement side to side etc.

    The noise is loud at certain road speeds around 30-40mph - faster or slower it reduces massively. I do have a howl at about 70mph. It isn't a contant sound, but more like 'morse code' when driving steady at the speed which causes it - if that makes sense!

    Question; is it possible to get a whining etc from tyres at 30-40mph? It's fitted with Bridgestones which have about 4mm of tread left.

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    Your sure there is nothing, like a nail, in the tyres?
    Have you tried letting out all the air and re-inflating both tyres.
    If the noise comes and goes whilst driving, then it might not be the tyres.
    You could also try getting a 4 wheel alignment done on a Hunter machine, including getting the rear wheels more vertical.
    The OE tyres are known to whine, partially because of the angle of the rear wheels.
    To check the bearing, you need to remove the wheels and calipers, only then can you actually check the bearings.

    I also now have a whining noise from my rear tyres, but is proportional to the speed, it also changes with the temperature of the tyres, the road surface and rain.
    I'm sure it is the tyres this time, but I can put up with it for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyP2020 View Post
    Your sure there is nothing, like a nail, in the tyres?
    Have you tried letting out all the air and re-inflating both tyres.
    If the noise comes and goes whilst driving, then it might not be the tyres.
    You could also try getting a 4 wheel alignment done on a Hunter machine, including getting the rear wheels more vertical.
    The OE tyres are known to whine, partially because of the angle of the rear wheels.
    To check the bearing, you need to remove the wheels and calipers, only then can you actually check the bearings.

    I also now have a whining noise from my rear tyres, but is proportional to the speed, it also changes with the temperature of the tyres, the road surface and rain.
    I'm sure it is the tyres this time, but I can put up with it for now.
    Yeah, the rear tyres are sound although both had puncture repairs within the last month.

    I haven't tried letting the air out, I'll give that a try. Also will take it for a spin later as it's raining to see if it makes any difference. Does your tyre whine happen at low speeds?

    It's more a whistling / whining sound - with a pattern almost like something is catching. It is there all the time as far as I can tell but it gets louder when hitting certain speeds around the 30-40mph mark. I've looked over it and can't see anything - I will get the dealer to have a more detailed look but I worry how detailed it will be at a main dealer, they aren't exactly fault finding specialists!

    I thought a wheel bearing made more of a grinding/rumbling sound, is that true?

    Man, I hate faults like this!

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    If both tyres have had puncture repairs, then the air used to inflate them MIGHT have had excess water vapour in it.

    My wheel bearing fault was a rubb rub rubb rub noise with gaps.

    The noise depends on how the bearing has failed, if it has.
    If someone else is insured to drive your car, try sitting in the back, on both sides, and listen, including opening the hatch between the rear seat and the boot.

    However, It might be time to ask for help from the guys in your local area.
    As I have changed both rear wheel bearings by myself, I would willing help someone local.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyP2020 View Post
    If both tyres have had puncture repairs, then the air used to inflate them MIGHT have had excess water vapour in it.

    My wheel bearing fault was a rubb rub rubb rub noise with gaps.

    The noise depends on how the bearing has failed, if it has.
    If someone else is insured to drive your car, try sitting in the back, on both sides, and listen, including opening the hatch between the rear seat and the boot.

    However, It might be time to ask for help from the guys in your local area.
    As I have changed both rear wheel bearings by myself, I would willing help someone local.
    Cheers Tony, it's a shame I'm not local!

    That's a good suggestion though - would anyone in the NE area who knows about this stuff be willing to take a listen to my car to see what they think?

    Would you class the rubbing noise you got as a whine style sound? Interestingly when the mechanic sat in the car and heard the sound he thought it was the o/s wheel where I thought it was the n/s! They did the brakes then said it was 'normal road noise'. Yeah, right.

    I was planning to take it back to the dealer tomorrow.... my car was a p/x from a main Nissan dealer - they sell all makes but I'm not sure if they would be able to properly diagnose the issue on the Vec. Seems to me if the wheel isn't hanging off they don't have a clue

    Given the tyres probably only have a few thousand miles left (couple of mm over wear indicators) and I do quite a lot of miles for my job I might swap out the tyres to see if that cures it - although I have a feeling it probably won't and it would be great if someone could take a look at it!

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