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    Default Extending a 1930's Semi Sideways - advice needed please.

    Anyone on here design/modify houses??
    Some advice needed please.
    As the title says, i live in a 1933 2 storey 3 bed semi.
    I have a garage on the side of the house, and the footprint of it would make a good 2 storey extension.
    The house wall next to the garage has no windows, no doors and 2 chimney breasts which are partially inside the house and partially outside.
    There are 4 rooms inside the house on the wall, 2 downstairs and 2 upstairs.
    There is already a single storey rear extension to make the kitchen bigger.
    I can't see or find a nice way to join the proposed new extension into the house without wasting some space of the existing rooms by adding corridors upstairs and downstairs or having doors in silly places.

    Now I'm NOT asking for the full plans for free, just an idea of what i can actually do with the space.
    Thanks in Advance.

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    Can't help you with anything internal but I believe you can no longer build over a garage unless it is a certain distance away from the boundary. At a previous house we had the gararge was 18 inches from the boundary and we couldn't get planning permission because of this.

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    Thanks for the info. There is a path, about 900mm wide, by the side of the garage that we (and all the local cats) use.
    The garage only goes 2/3rd's of the way down the side of the house, so it only overlaps the rear bedroom by about a metre.

    Looking at it more and doing some rough drawings, the best thing might just be to add an on-suite bathroom / walk in wardrobe to the main bedroom and keep the garage as a garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcGSI View Post
    Can't help you with anything internal but I believe you can no longer build over a garage unless it is a certain distance away from the boundary. At a previous house we had the gararge was 18 inches from the boundary and we couldn't get planning permission because of this.
    All applications are taken on their own merit and site conditions - positioning of neighbouring dwellings and their habitable rooms etc.

    hard to comment really without seeing it, i'm an architect and run my own practise up in hornsea,.. pm me if you wish

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalcGSI View Post
    Can't help you with anything internal but I believe you can no longer build over a garage unless it is a certain distance away from the boundary. At a previous house we had the gararge was 18 inches from the boundary and we couldn't get planning permission because of this.
    I've heard that some people get round this by submitting two planning applications
    The first is to demolish the garage (retaining the boundary limits)
    6 months is allowed to pass, and then a new application is submitted for a full size extension

    Equally, most garages are simple basic construction and so building above these pretty much means additional work
    Using the above means a completely new (and often wider) garage is a benefit

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    I've heard that some people get round this by submitting two planning applications
    The first is to demolish the garage (retaining the boundary limits)
    6 months is allowed to pass, and then a new application is submitted for a full size extension

    Equally, most garages are simple basic construction and so building above these pretty much means additional work
    Using the above means a completely new (and often wider) garage is a benefit
    regardless this is not true, as mentioned all applications are determined on their won merit. The circumstances around MalcGSI would have reasoned the refusal other than a simple statement of not being allowed to build above a garage.

    Removing a structure with the intention of applying in the future is not advised.

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    The existing garage will only be a single leaf wall. It is also unlikely that the foundations will be strong enough to hold a cavity wall. These will need to be investigated. You can add a second leaf insode the garage, but this will reduce the size of your garage.

    You will probably have to knock down the existing garage and build a new one with the extension.

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    Alright mate my dad has his own building company and they do these sort of extensions all the time as tbey are a good way to get a little more out of your house. It is surprising what can be achieved with the layout if you move some walls here and there i doubt you will have wasted space. Your garage will be a single leaf and will need to be a double which us easy to add and like chewy71 says planning permission depends on loads of things especially your neighbours as you might have liads of space but if this is going to cast a huge shadow over next door then expect them to take action

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    Wow, some good replies, thanks guys.
    Google street scene pic below.
    The garage is pre-cast concrete panels and would have to be removed, and the foundations will probably be very shallow, if any.
    No shadow problems over next door, that side of the house/garage is south facing, plus the house next door is seperated by their garden.
    This would have to be a full build from the foundations upwards, but the at least the garage is already on the land with regards to getting planning permission.
    The garage is the pale blue door half hidden behind the dark green tree (which has now been removed) with the wheelie bin in front of it. The path is down the LHS of the garage.

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