bad starter 1.9 cdti

**mauricemersey** · 15th August 2012, 13:06

Hi guys I am having a bad time to start my
Vectra 1.9 cdti Engine Code: Z19 DT,
I fitted a new h/duty batt but it turns over a lot of times before it kicks in, so i put car up on ramps got some one to turn engine over and i saw smoke leaking out of the
Front-Down Pipe at the FLEXI? would that cause bad starting or could it be some thing more i have removed and stripped ECR and replaced still bad at starts:
Any help please with this cheers Maurice

**Gavin2.6** · 15th August 2012, 13:27

Would be looking towards the glow plugs more if a starting issue. The leaking exhaust wont stop the car starting and a jammed open EGR should not affect anything as should be clearish air running through it until the engine starts. Does it get better if you turn the ignition on for 15 seconds before starting ? Give glow plugs time to warm up then. Easy enough to take em out and test.

**mauricemersey** · 15th August 2012, 16:15

Originally Posted by Gavin2.6

Would be looking towards the glow plugs more if a starting issue. The leaking exhaust wont stop the car starting and a jammed open EGR should not affect anything as should be clearish air running through it until the engine starts. Does it get better if you turn the ignition on for 15 seconds before starting ? Give glow plugs time to warm up then. Easy enough to take em out and test.

Hi thanks for that info I turned the ignition on left for 10 to 15 secs then did it again seemed to start a bit better, how do I test the glow plugs? and could it be any of the injectors and can they be removed and cleaned or is that a no no cheers Maurice:

**the-wizard** · 15th August 2012, 17:51

Originally Posted by mauricemersey

Hi thanks for that info I turned the ignition on left for 10 to 15 secs then did it again seemed to start a bit better, how do I test the glow plugs? and could it be any of the injectors and can they be removed and cleaned or is that a no no cheers Maurice:

you can test them with a ohms meter or just take them out & test with jump leads, earth on the big nut or the large threads & touch the red to the top small thread until it gets hot'ish (time them roughly to see if there all ok no reaction means there duff) beware they get HOT do not touch till cool!.

**Gavin2.6** · 15th August 2012, 22:57

Just plug em in once removed and turn on the iggy. Check they all glow the same.

**130786howe** · 15th August 2012, 23:03

how many times is it turning over before fire i tested my glow plugs all read 0.04 ohms just a reading for you to compare

**dave r** · 16th August 2012, 09:18

Originally Posted by the-wizard

you can test them with a ohms meter or just take them out & test with jump leads, earth on the big nut or the large threads & touch the red to the top small thread until it gets hot'ish (time them roughly to see if there all ok no reaction means there duff) beware they get HOT do not touch till cool!.

sorry to sneak in with a question here , but just wondering can glow plugs be tested in situ with an ohms meter or do they have to come out .
also daft question is an ohm's meter the same as an multi meter you can get off ebay for a fiver upwards cheers dave .

**mauricemersey** · 16th August 2012, 11:42

Hi the engine turns over approx: between 10 & 15 times at the of the end of turn over it turns over faster then fires up ok with no misfire its like a petrol engine when gassed up you have to put foot to the floor to clear it, and when it is turning over smoke comes out of the leaking exhaust flexi pipe but no smoke when running:
regards Maurice:

**123rado** · 16th August 2012, 12:04

Originally Posted by Gavin2.6

Would be looking towards the glow plugs more if a starting issue. The leaking exhaust wont stop the car starting and a jammed open EGR should not affect anything as should be clearish air running through it until the engine starts. Does it get better if you turn the ignition on for 15 seconds before starting ? Give glow plugs time to warm up then. Easy enough to take em out and test.

They are actually a pain to take out on the 120 Z19DT engines.Lots of things have to come off.

**mauricemersey** · 16th August 2012, 15:17

Hi I have just had the OP-COM read on my vectra by a mate just a door modular fault plus a read out he took from the injectors:Injection Quantity Deviation:
No 1: -1.40
No 2: -1.54
No 3: 0.21
No 4: 2.74
All on tick over Engine running temp 85%
What the above means not a glue any help please:
regards maurice