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    About a week ago the light came on for low oil pressure, anyway checked it out the following day and the oil was low on the dipstick, now earlier today i`ve checked the oil again and its gone down a notch on the dipstick, so i`ll top it up tomorrow, both times the car has been cold when i`m checkin the dipstick,
    its a 1.8 non vvt, and i haven`t noticed any white smoke or any other for that matter when driving, having said that tho i have factory tinted windows in my estate,
    the light came on about three months from owning the car, and its over due a service, it gets used daily apart from today as i haven`t been out today, and as far as i`m aware there isn`t a oil patch on the drive or road where i park, so a leak isn`t a cause, i don`t think, could it be somethin more serious on its way, or is that its over due a service,

    any advice would be helpful

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    Why are you checking the oil with the engine cold?
    Is there not a sticker on the engine bay?

    How much overdue the service is it?

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    As above, engine at working temperature, leave for 5 minutes on a relatively flat surface then check the level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    Why are you checking the oil with the engine cold?
    Is there not a sticker on the engine bay?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lean6 View Post
    As above, engine at working temperature, leave for 5 minutes on a relatively flat surface then check the level.
    Sorry but I always check my oil first thing in the morning when the engine is cold. Yes there is a sticker saying you should do it with the engine warm and leave it for 5 minutes, but there is no valve in the filter holding oil in the top end so imo there is no need or point to this. If anyone knows why it should be checked when the engine is hot please feel free to enlighten me.

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    Makes absolutely no difference to weather getting to temp an waiting few mins or checking first thing.

    Level is exactly the same either way.

    I for one feel it's a stupid way of checking. Coz what happens if it's bone dry an you've sat an ran it too temp their fire causing premature wear/ damage to components in necessarily

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    Quote Originally Posted by DasArab View Post
    If anyone knows why it should be checked when the engine is hot please feel free to enlighten me.
    Not hot, warm
    When cold all the oil has flowed and collected in the sump
    When warm a small amount of has been retained on the moving parts, and is still flowing to the sump
    You therefore check the level when warm

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    The oil level must be checked with the vehicle on a level surface and with the engine (which must be at operating
    temperature)
    Id suggest operating temp equals hot, but as there is 1lt between top mark and bottom mark I really doubt is makes any difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DasArab View Post
    Id suggest operating temp equals hot, but as there is 1lt between top mark and bottom mark I really doubt is makes any difference.
    It's not about the difference between MIN and MAX, it is accuracy when checking and obtaining the correct level as when the engine normally operates

    Example :
    Engine cold, level at MAX - This is too much oil ** This is the one that causes issues
    Engine cold, level at MIN - This is fine
    Engine warm, level at MAX - This is fine
    Engine warm, level at MIN - This is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    Example :
    Engine cold, level at MAX - This is too much oil ** This is the one that causes issues
    Engine warm, level at MAX - This is fine
    If when its at max when cold(and this causing issues) how can it being at max when warm and this OK, when

    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    When warm a small amount of has been retained on the moving parts, and is still flowing to the sump
    Surly that would mean when cold more oil would be in teh sump and not around the moving parts, so if at the top mark when hot, when cold it would be above the max mark? No? and thus would cause issues(pressure on seals etc.)

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    How is too much oil an how does it cause issues with oil level at max when cold???

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