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    Morning all,

    Well that's another night shift in, looks like it could be a good day to wash the car, and that's what the question is about.

    If anyone does today or has recently washed their car can I ask them to check the paint i.e. look closely for "swirl" and "cob web" scratches and also run your hand over the paint to see if it is at all "gritty" to the feel particularly the lower part of the doors and towards the wheels arch, I'm sure there will be a few then we'll see if there are volunteers to be guinea pigs

    I'll be getting up around 1pm so I'll look back to see if there has been any replies.

    Bryan

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    I would suspect we all have swirls and cobwebs but a good wax can help disguse these. Same with the rough feel which will be anything from tree sap to tar deposits.
    Some members would advise you use mequires 'clay' to remove the lumps which works wlll but cost around £16 a bottle.
    HTH
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    I have just bought the mequires clay system off ebay for £8.99. Will post a link in a bit!!!

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    Is this stuff any good? there are so many polishes and promises out in the shops

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    Clay is fabulous for getting rid of the "gritty" feel. Use it on the front bumper and bonnet to get rid of flies and tar marks, on the roof to get rid of sap, and on the doors to get rid of tar splats.

    Once you have "clayed", run over it with a polish and then top coat it with a good wax. The system I use is:

    1. Meguiars clay.
    2. Meguiars proffessional swirl free polish or Zymol Cleaner Wax
    3. Meguiars Gold Class Liquid Wax

    I have the Meguiars Cordless Orbital Buffer with a variety of pads to get a mirror finish.

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    Not received the clay as yet but have read about it on various forums and decided to give it a go!!! Will be finishing the job off with Autoglym super resin polish and super gloss finish......the best you can get and don't let any Meguiars fans tell you otherwise!!!!

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    Sounds like it's had previuos paint repairs if it's gritty to the touch.
    The scratches,could they be preperation marks, where it has been sanded before painting?
    Just a guess, It's hard to say without seeing it.

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    You find that all paint will pick up dirt over time, such as road tar,grit, tree sap etc. Most of this will come off with washing and polishing. However there are some things that will not come off and these are thethings that will make the paint feel gritty. Use the clay system and it will remove these leaving the paint feel like glass.

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    Good afternoon everyone,

    Well that's a good turn out

    Some waxes will disguise scratches.
    Clay is a serious piece of kit.
    Autoglym is great stuff, I just prefer Meguiar's.
    Inspektor-repaired? not necessarily.
    And that's correct Taffy.

    Clay will remove every spec of dirt, dust & grim on the paint leaving it "squeeky clean".

    I did a silver Clio V6 a couple of weeks ago, this car has from new been valet once a month and washed once a week, since coming here it has been washed once a fortnight (now once a week) beleive me this car is now a shade lighter.

    That's why I would say if the car has not been clayed before when you start you must do the whole car just incase the colour does change by dirt removal.

    When using a clay bar it is important to note the following: -

    If you drop the clay onto the ground you MUST bin it as the grit picked up WILL scratch.

    That's why I cut the clay into 2 pieces, you will only need 1 of these, although you may not believe that when you see the size of the clay bar (100mm x 55mm x 10mm).

    First flatten the piece you are using out a little (and after every time you fold).

    Spray plenty of lub on and gently rub in straight lines, always stay within the area you have lubbed, I use just under a full bottle and keep the remainder in the with a cloth for flies etc.

    Start with the roof then the bonnet, do not "TURN" the clay.

    Now "FOLD" the clay bar (you will have 2 fresh sides).

    Now do the front and rear wings, do not "TURN" the clay.

    Now, again, "FOLD" the clay bar (you will have 2 fresh sides).

    Now do the doors, again do not "TURN" the clay.

    Now, again, "FOLD" the clay bar (you will have 2 fresh sides).

    Clay the bumpers and any little areas missed.

    When the paintwork is finished move onto the glass then the lights and finally the wheels.

    As far as polishing etc goes I would simply add 1coat of Meguiar's #21, that's if you like the wet look.

    Now this sounds like a lot of work and will take 3 hours or so but it only requires to be done every 6months, and inbetween after the weekly wash I go over the car with Megs NXT spray wax (could use quick detailer) and does keep the look, just like it has just had the full treatment.

    Bryan

    PS the reason for NOT turning the clay is that if you use both sides then both will be contaminated and you will have locked in the clean clay whereas by using one side then turning ensures that you lock in the dirt and start each section with 2 clean sides.
    I hope this makes sense.
    Last edited by blr123; 4th September 2005 at 13:20.

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