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    Default Any engineers / mechanical minded people ?

    Need a bit of input if anyone can help .
    Basically I have a winch , the retainer grub screw on the drum is fubar and wont lock the cable down .
    It's not really load baring , as the winch cable wraps on itself it forms it's strength.
    However I'm having problems finding a method that will secure the end of the cable to the drum .
    The whole drum in the image turns (for reference)
    It can't be welded (already tried welding a chain link onto it)
    Bulldog clamps just allow the drum to rotate the cable slips and won't grip .
    I dont really want to take the winch from the van as it looks like a real p.i.t.a
    Anyone got any ideas ?
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    tough without pics of the problem to understand what you mean chap

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    If it's not really load bearing and it won't undergo much strain, you could try banding it to the drum over a couple of turns of the cable if welding isn't possible. You can get a banding tool to get these really tight. Normally they're used for grouping cables but they're good a semi-permanent fix for jobs like this.

    edit.. the banding tools are very expensive, just found one.

    maybe these if you can get enough tension on them with a thick rubber sheet to lock the cable in place.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AE115-PPA-...item43a97470d5

    it's the same idea as I've used in the past at work, just without the tool to tighten it up, which can be acheived by wrapping it around something and pulling it tight.
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    Wouldn't it be possible to drill a small hole sideways through the rim/side of the drum, near the "core" for want of a better word, then feed the cable through that and clamp it with something there? Certainly couldn't spin if you did that.

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    Can you drill out and tap for bigger grub screw or helicoil for standard size

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    Alternatively, if you drill out the hole for the grub screw to allow the cable to pass through, you can feed the cable through the cable eye, out through the drilled out grub screw and use a cable clamp to join the two together so in effect you're making a loop through the drum which won't slip.


    with something like this to join the cable
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x3mm-1-8-...item589227db5e

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDTiMatt View Post
    If it's not really load bearing and it won't undergo much strain, you could try banding it to the drum over a couple of turns of the cable if welding isn't possible. You can get a banding tool to get these really tight. Normally they're used for grouping cables but they're good a semi-permanent fix for jobs like this.

    edit.. the banding tools are very expensive, just found one.

    maybe these if you can get enough tension on them with a thick rubber sheet to lock the cable in place.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AE115-PPA-...item43a97470d5

    it's the same idea as I've used in the past at work, just without the tool to tighten it up, which can be acheived by wrapping it around something and pulling it tight.
    I did consider something like this , but thought under load it may slip .

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    Quote Originally Posted by puppet View Post
    Wouldn't it be possible to drill a small hole sideways through the rim/side of the drum, near the "core" for want of a better word, then feed the cable through that and clamp it with something there? Certainly couldn't spin if you did that.
    I was trying to avoid drilling into the centre as there must be a shaft internally , but I may have to at some point .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDTiMatt View Post


    Alternatively, if you drill out the hole for the grub screw to allow the cable to pass through, you can feed the cable through the cable eye, out through the drilled out grub screw and use a cable clamp to join the two together so in effect you're making a loop through the drum which won't slip.


    with something like this to join the cable
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x3mm-1-8-...item589227db5e
    I did have a few ideas , just wanted to see what you guys thought .
    That definately look's like a plan Matt , cheers .
    Sometimes the most obvious solution can be staring you straight in the face , but with the red mist descending you can easily get sidetracked .
    I'll give the drilling out the grub to 8mm a try and loop the cable through .
    Thanks again .

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutybrown View Post
    Can you drill out and tap for bigger grub screw or helicoil for standard size
    Access is pretty limited mate tbh , so the less technical the better .

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