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    Default How is the Vectra 1.9 CDTi 150 BHP on clutches and gearboxes?

    Hi All,

    I am an Alfa Romeo 159 owner. My second clutch in 51,000 miles is now slipping and I am wondering if you guys, like us in 159's experience faults with clutches, gearboxes, master & slave cylinders etc as often as we do. This is also my second gearbox and both master and slave cylinders have been replaced already. Another common issue on the 159 is clutch pedal not returning to top position and generally sits about 1" off (I pick mine up with outside of my foot after each clutch pedal shift).

    Before I fork out for parts I would like to know if our DMF and clutches are the same parts. For those who do not know, our cars use the same engine and gearbox, as do SAAB 93 owners (and no doubt a few others).

    All comments appreciated.

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    No DMf is bolted to the fly wheel then the clutch bolted to the DMf three parts in total

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    The f40 is a decent strong box, much better than the m32 used in the Astra... clutches aren't a problem unless your running big power, the down fall is the dmf & bad driving styles.

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    As above its power that kills them when tuned.
    My 1.9 Astra had to have a new gearbox clutch an flywheel at about 35000 miles but that was tuned for 25000 of them an driven hard.

    With it being the same engine I would assume they fit.

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    As above its power that kills them when tuned.
    My 1.9 Astra had to have a new gearbox clutch an flywheel at about 35000 miles but that was tuned for 25000 of them an driven hard.

    With it being the same engine I would assume they fit.

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    I thought the Alfa engines were slightly different from the Saab and Vauxhall varients, slightly different ancillaries, as they do not perform the same when remapped.

    The clutches on the Saab and Vauxhalls don't tend to be an issue as far as I am aware. Also the boxes don't tend to be a problem but I have spoken to Alfa mechanics and they said there are alot of issues with the F40 boxes failing on the Alfas.

    Uprated clutches are available, CG Motorsports being quite cheap.

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    Power does not kill anything, torque kills them. The clutches on the F40 boxes are good to about 375lbft, by 400lbft they are almost all slipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haye2412 View Post
    No DMf is bolted to the fly wheel then the clutch bolted to the DMf three parts in total
    Dmf is the flywheel.

    3 pieces yes. 4 if you count the concentric slave cylinder.

    Dmf, clutch friction plate, pressure plate then the csc.



    TO the op with your clutch issue have you tried pressure bleeding the system whilst manually operating the clutch?

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    Lots of problems with the 1.9 JTDm and OEM clutch experienced by many. Most of us ofcourse 'tweak' the engine and I am no exception. My engine with probably be pulling around 384Nm of torque but not really a huge amount more than the stock 320Nm. Perhaps the tolerances of the clutch are too marginal. Perhaps I will check the clutch used on the SAAB 9-3 TTid.

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    The TTid uses the same clutch as the Vectra range as far as I know. I have been told that the 2.8 VXRs also have DMFs and I don't hear about problems with them.

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