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    Default V5 Document Issue Dates Not Matching on HPI Check

    Looking for opinions on this.

    Following on from the thread I started earlier

    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156238

    I have run an AA HPI check on a car I have put a deposit on today. All came back good, apart from one section for the V5 Document issue date. It flagged up as:

    "The V5 registration document issue date does not match the information provided by the DVLA"

    Initially I ran the check with just the Reg and VIN number, but without the V5 Doc number and issue date as I hadn't taken note of them. However, I contacted the seller and he provided both for me.

    He is a private trader type chap, and the story is that he has bought the car from Arnold Clark who took it as a trade in. Result is that the V5 doc he currently has shows the previous owners name and address rather than his own. I'm wondering if it's simply that Arnold Clark will have notified DVLA and the issue date of the paper copy of the V5 he has will simply be out of date? That being the case, I'm not quite sure why he would still have the whole V5?

    What's your thoughts folks?

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    I'd say give dvla a ring and run the details past them for confirmation

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    Well, update as follows, for anybody that is interested.........

    Seems that DVLA are in the process of replacing older style V5 documents at the moment. The original owner of the car (not the trader I was buying from) had traded the car in at a garage, using the "old" style of V5 documents. The garage then sent the car to the market in Glasgow.

    DVLA have then unknowingly sent out a "new" style V5 document to original owner, unaware that he had traded it in. This new V5 document would obviously have had a more recent issue date on it, even though there was no change of keeper etc. Problem is that the trader selling the car at present has obtained the car from the market, and only has the "old" style document, which now has dates on it that are unusable to obtain the full AA HPI check. This explains why the HPI was flagging up the "The V5 registration document issue date does not match the information provided by the DVLA" warning.

    So, long story cut short(ish), I told him I wasn't happy to proceed with the purchase without being able to perform a 100% satisfactory HPI check. I'm 99.9% sure he was genuine enough, and it was all above board, but I simply didn't want to take the chance. He wasn't best pleased, but agreed to refund my deposit, which I have now been and collected. Would rather be about £30 out of pocket for petrol and an HPI check than thousands if it all went wrong!

    He obviously decided he was selling it too cheap anyway, as I see it's now back up for sale, but for £300 more than it was advertised at yesterday!

    @Critch - Cheers, but I tried DVLA this morning, and they wouldn't even discuss it with me as I'm not the registerd keeper. Most heplful..........not!
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    cud check here.

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    Yup, tried that.

    Plonked in the details and the V5 Issue Date came back as "Not on record"

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    WALK AWAY mate, their will always be another car around the corner, don't loose your money....

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    The suggests the current buyer is not a registered trader (with the DVLA) and simply holding the V5 document, hence the discrepancy

    Arnold Clark have sent in their portion and are treating it as a normal retail sale
    They have a different procedure in place if it is a trade sale to another trader

    As above, walk away

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    Quote Originally Posted by armoured farmer View Post
    WALK AWAY mate, their will always be another car around the corner, don't loose your money....
    Oh I have, don't worry. Wallet intact thankfully!

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