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    Default "How To" on fitting Oil Sump??

    Apologies if in wrong section

    After a little incident I had the weekend, I need to replace my Sump....

    Is there guide on how to do this for a 120 1.9 Cdti??

    Thanks
    Last edited by Rosco88; 7th February 2012 at 12:17.

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    Don't think theirs a guide. But I think you may have to drop sub frame to give clearance to remove it.

    Not always the best way about going about a job but getting a Haynes manual might be worth it.
    Or even just go stand in Halfords read the page a few times and go home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critch View Post
    Don't think theirs a guide. But I think you may have to drop sub frame to give clearance to remove it.

    Not always the best way about going about a job but getting a Haynes manual might be worth it.
    Or even just go stand in Halfords read the page a few times and go home
    thanks for the reply..... Was thinking of a Haynes manual

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    Sorry couldn't be of more help.

    But apart from clearance to remove the sump. Their usually fairly straight forward to take off.

    just make sure get a new gasket aswel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critch View Post
    Sorry couldn't be of more help.

    But apart from clearance to remove the sump. Their usually fairly straight forward to take off.

    just make sure get a new gasket aswel
    No worries.... I found this on a previous thread.... Seems a lot to remove tbh

    Quote Originally Posted by plasma View Post
    Not a nice job, Involves removing one of the driveshafts, dropping the gearbox fluid, removing the front end exhaust system and some other bits... Gave mine to someone to do lol

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    Sounds like a fairly involved job. Thinking about it yeah intermediate shaft might be in the way.

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    cant seem to get pictures atm but this is what if got from tis might be some help

    Remove and install oil pan
    J456500
    Remove
    1. Open bonnet

    2. Disconnect battery.

    3. Release oil dipstick guide tube at the top
    • Remove bolt


    4. Release front wheel
    • Release 5x bolt


    5. Raise vehicle

    6. Detach front wheel
    • Unscrew 5x bolt


    7. Remove swing arm (2)
    • Unscrew nut
    – Counterhold at flat with open-ended wrench



    8. Detach tie rod ball joint
    • Unscrew nut

    • Push down off steering knuckle with KM-161-B (1) and KM-161-2


    9. Detach guide joint (3)
    • Remove screwed connection (4)



    10. Press out axle shaft
    • From intermediate shaft


    11. Raise vehicle

    12. Detach lower engine compartment cover and right-hand engine splash protection if necessary

    13. Remove intermediate shaft
    • Detach intermediate shaft bearing support (1)
    – Unscrew 3x bolt (2)


    • Remove intermediate shaft with support



    14. Seal off transmission aperture

    15. Remove front exhaust pipe
    Important: When removing the central silencer, a catalytic converter, an exhaust manifold or an exhaust manifold with catalytic converter, the part of the exhaust system remaining in the vehicle must be secured to prevent it sagging. To do this, the section of the exhaust system with the flex pipe contained in it can be fastened to the substructure of the vehicle with suitable means such as e.g. wire or the transportation fittings for a new flex pipe. Bends of as little as 5 - 10 degrees in the flex pipe can lead to damage resulting in total failure of the flex pipe.

    • Unscrew 6x nut

    • Release exhaust pipe bracket
    – Unscrew 2x bolt



    16. Detach catalytic converter bracket (2)
    • Unscrew 3x bolt (1)



    17. Detach torsional vibration damper
    • Release 4x bolts


    18. Remove ribbed V-belt
    • Mark direction of movement of ribbed V-belt

    • Tension the ribbed V-belt tension roller at bolt (1) in a clockwise direction (direction of arrow)

    • Insert KM-6349 (2)



    19. Remove torsional vibration damper
    • Unscrew 4x bolt


    20. Disconnect compressor wiring harness plug
    • Release wiring harness plug


    21. Remove compressor
    • Unscrew 3x bolt



    22. Remove compressor bracket (3)
    • Unscrew 4x bolt (2)

    • Unclip wiring harness bracket (1)

    • Remove bracket with guide roller (4)



    23. Open oil drain bolt
    • Place collecting basin underneath.

    • Unscrew oil drain bolt


    24. Release oil dipstick guide tube at the bottom
    • Remove bolt

    • Remove bracket for wiring harness plug


    25. Detach wiring harness plug of dynamic oil level check sensor (1)

    26. Detach oil return hose (2)
    • Place collecting basin underneath.

    • Release clamp



    27. Screw in oil drain bolt
    • Replace seal ring

    • Banjo bolt 20 Nm


    28. Position flywheel
    • Turn engine in direction of rotation
    – At crankshaft bolt

    – Until flywheel recess releases the bolt (arrow)




    29. Release oil pan on transmission side
    • Unscrew 2x bolt
    – On transmission


    • Unscrew 2x bolt

    • Use EN-46794
    Note: The flywheel must be turned again so that the second bolt is released.


    30. Release oil pan on the engine timing side
    • Unscrew 2x bolt

    • Use EN-47631


    31. Remove oil pan
    • Unscrew 10x bolt

    • Use EN-46796

    • Release oil pan with KM-J-37228


    32. Detach oil intake pipe
    • Unscrew 2x bolt (arrows)



    33. Remove oil pan
    Note: Remove oil pan with oil intake pipe

    Install
    34. Cleaning work

    35. Position oil intake pipe
    • Replace seal ring

    • Screw in bolt
    – In crankshaft bearing cap
    Note: Only screw bolt in to the point where the oil intake pipe can still be swivelled.



    36. Apply sealant
    Important: Complete assembly operations within 10 minutes.

    • Apply sealant to sealing surface of oil pan


    37. Position oil pan
    Note: Position oil intake pipe in oil pan, to do this swivel oil intake pipe backwards (connection to oil pump)

    38. Attach oil intake pipe
    • 2x bolts 9 Nm


    39. Attach pan
    • Position oil dipstick guide tube
    Note: Ensure that the sealing bead is undamaged.

    • Position 10x bolt


    40. Fasten oil pan on engine timing side
    • Position 2x bolt


    41. Position flywheel
    • Turn engine in direction of rotation
    – At crankshaft bolt

    – Until flywheel recess releases the bolt



    42. Fasten oil pan on transmission side
    • Position 2x bolt

    • Use EN-46794
    Note: The flywheel must be turned/positioned again so that the second bolt is released.


    43. Fasten oil pan
    • 10x bolts (M8) 25 Nm

    • 4x bolts (M6) 9 Nm

    • 2x bolt (transmission, M10) 40 Nm


    44. Attach oil return line
    • Fasten clamp


    45. Connect dynamic oil level check sensor wiring harness plug

    46. Attach compressor bracket
    • 4x bolts 50 Nm

    • Clip in wiring harness bracket


    47. Attach compressor
    • 3x bolts 22 Nm


    48. Connect compressor wiring harness plug
    • Lock wiring harness plug


    49. Fasten oil dipstick guide tube at the bottom
    • Bolt 9 Nm

    • Attach wiring harness plug bracket


    50. Place torsional vibration damper in position
    • Screw in 4x bolt
    Note: Ensure correct installation position.


    51. Install ribbed V-belt
    Note: Pay attention to direction of travel
    • Install ribbed V-belt.
    Ribbed V-belt routing with air conditioning system
    Ribbed V-belt routing without air conditioning system

    • Remove KM-6349



    52. Fasten torsional vibration damper
    • 4x bolts 360 Nm


    53. Install intermediate shaft
    • Attach intermediate shaft bearing support
    – 3x bolts 55 Nm



    54. Attach catalytic converter bracket
    • 3x bolts 25 Nm


    55. Attach front exhaust pipe
    • Replace 6x nut, 2x gasket

    • 6x nuts 20 Nm

    • Fasten exhaust pipe bracket
    – Tighten 2x bolt



    56. Lower vehicle

    57. Replace retaining ring
    • From axle shaft


    58. Install axle shaft
    • In intermediate shaft


    59. Attach guide joint
    Note: Replace nut and bolt.
    • Nut 60 Nm


    60. Attach swing arm
    Note: Replace nut
    • Nut 65 Nm
    Note: Counterhold with open-ended wrench.


    61. Attach tie rod ball joint
    Note: Replace nut.
    • Nut 35 Nm


    62. Raise vehicle

    63. Attach lower engine compartment cover and right-hand engine splash protection if removed

    64. Lower vehicle

    65. Attach front wheel
    • Screw in 5x bolt


    66. Lower vehicle

    67. Secure front wheel
    • 5x bolts 110 Nm


    68. Attach oil dipstick guide tube at the top
    • Bolt 9 Nm


    69. Connect battery.

    70. Program volatile memories

    71. Top up engine oil.
    • Observe specified engine oil quantity

    • Start engine and allow to run until oil pressure telltale extinguishes.

    • Check engine oil level, if necessary correct.


    72. Close bonnet

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    cant seem to get pictures atm but this is what if got from tis might be some help

    Remove and install oil pan
    J456500
    Remove
    1. Open bonnet

    2. Disconnect battery.

    3. Release oil dipstick guide tube at the top
    • Remove bolt


    4. Release front wheel
    • Release 5x bolt


    5. Raise vehicle

    6. Detach front wheel
    • Unscrew 5x bolt


    7. Remove swing arm (2)
    • Unscrew nut
    – Counterhold at flat with open-ended wrench



    8. Detach tie rod ball joint
    • Unscrew nut

    • Push down off steering knuckle with KM-161-B (1) and KM-161-2


    9. Detach guide joint (3)
    • Remove screwed connection (4)



    10. Press out axle shaft
    • From intermediate shaft


    11. Raise vehicle

    12. Detach lower engine compartment cover and right-hand engine splash protection if necessary

    13. Remove intermediate shaft
    • Detach intermediate shaft bearing support (1)
    – Unscrew 3x bolt (2)


    • Remove intermediate shaft with support



    14. Seal off transmission aperture

    15. Remove front exhaust pipe
    Important: When removing the central silencer, a catalytic converter, an exhaust manifold or an exhaust manifold with catalytic converter, the part of the exhaust system remaining in the vehicle must be secured to prevent it sagging. To do this, the section of the exhaust system with the flex pipe contained in it can be fastened to the substructure of the vehicle with suitable means such as e.g. wire or the transportation fittings for a new flex pipe. Bends of as little as 5 - 10 degrees in the flex pipe can lead to damage resulting in total failure of the flex pipe.

    • Unscrew 6x nut

    • Release exhaust pipe bracket
    – Unscrew 2x bolt



    16. Detach catalytic converter bracket (2)
    • Unscrew 3x bolt (1)



    17. Detach torsional vibration damper
    • Release 4x bolts


    18. Remove ribbed V-belt
    • Mark direction of movement of ribbed V-belt

    • Tension the ribbed V-belt tension roller at bolt (1) in a clockwise direction (direction of arrow)

    • Insert KM-6349 (2)



    19. Remove torsional vibration damper
    • Unscrew 4x bolt


    20. Disconnect compressor wiring harness plug
    • Release wiring harness plug


    21. Remove compressor
    • Unscrew 3x bolt



    22. Remove compressor bracket (3)
    • Unscrew 4x bolt (2)

    • Unclip wiring harness bracket (1)

    • Remove bracket with guide roller (4)



    23. Open oil drain bolt
    • Place collecting basin underneath.

    • Unscrew oil drain bolt


    24. Release oil dipstick guide tube at the bottom
    • Remove bolt

    • Remove bracket for wiring harness plug


    25. Detach wiring harness plug of dynamic oil level check sensor (1)

    26. Detach oil return hose (2)
    • Place collecting basin underneath.

    • Release clamp



    27. Screw in oil drain bolt
    • Replace seal ring

    • Banjo bolt 20 Nm


    28. Position flywheel
    • Turn engine in direction of rotation
    – At crankshaft bolt

    – Until flywheel recess releases the bolt (arrow)




    29. Release oil pan on transmission side
    • Unscrew 2x bolt
    – On transmission


    • Unscrew 2x bolt

    • Use EN-46794
    Note: The flywheel must be turned again so that the second bolt is released.


    30. Release oil pan on the engine timing side
    • Unscrew 2x bolt

    • Use EN-47631


    31. Remove oil pan
    • Unscrew 10x bolt

    • Use EN-46796

    • Release oil pan with KM-J-37228


    32. Detach oil intake pipe
    • Unscrew 2x bolt (arrows)



    33. Remove oil pan
    Note: Remove oil pan with oil intake pipe

    Install
    34. Cleaning work

    35. Position oil intake pipe
    • Replace seal ring

    • Screw in bolt
    – In crankshaft bearing cap
    Note: Only screw bolt in to the point where the oil intake pipe can still be swivelled.



    36. Apply sealant
    Important: Complete assembly operations within 10 minutes.

    • Apply sealant to sealing surface of oil pan


    37. Position oil pan
    Note: Position oil intake pipe in oil pan, to do this swivel oil intake pipe backwards (connection to oil pump)

    38. Attach oil intake pipe
    • 2x bolts 9 Nm


    39. Attach pan
    • Position oil dipstick guide tube
    Note: Ensure that the sealing bead is undamaged.

    • Position 10x bolt


    40. Fasten oil pan on engine timing side
    • Position 2x bolt


    41. Position flywheel
    • Turn engine in direction of rotation
    – At crankshaft bolt

    – Until flywheel recess releases the bolt



    42. Fasten oil pan on transmission side
    • Position 2x bolt

    • Use EN-46794
    Note: The flywheel must be turned/positioned again so that the second bolt is released.


    43. Fasten oil pan
    • 10x bolts (M8) 25 Nm

    • 4x bolts (M6) 9 Nm

    • 2x bolt (transmission, M10) 40 Nm


    44. Attach oil return line
    • Fasten clamp


    45. Connect dynamic oil level check sensor wiring harness plug

    46. Attach compressor bracket
    • 4x bolts 50 Nm

    • Clip in wiring harness bracket


    47. Attach compressor
    • 3x bolts 22 Nm


    48. Connect compressor wiring harness plug
    • Lock wiring harness plug


    49. Fasten oil dipstick guide tube at the bottom
    • Bolt 9 Nm

    • Attach wiring harness plug bracket


    50. Place torsional vibration damper in position
    • Screw in 4x bolt
    Note: Ensure correct installation position.


    51. Install ribbed V-belt
    Note: Pay attention to direction of travel
    • Install ribbed V-belt.
    Ribbed V-belt routing with air conditioning system
    Ribbed V-belt routing without air conditioning system

    • Remove KM-6349



    52. Fasten torsional vibration damper
    • 4x bolts 360 Nm


    53. Install intermediate shaft
    • Attach intermediate shaft bearing support
    – 3x bolts 55 Nm



    54. Attach catalytic converter bracket
    • 3x bolts 25 Nm


    55. Attach front exhaust pipe
    • Replace 6x nut, 2x gasket

    • 6x nuts 20 Nm

    • Fasten exhaust pipe bracket
    – Tighten 2x bolt



    56. Lower vehicle

    57. Replace retaining ring
    • From axle shaft


    58. Install axle shaft
    • In intermediate shaft


    59. Attach guide joint
    Note: Replace nut and bolt.
    • Nut 60 Nm


    60. Attach swing arm
    Note: Replace nut
    • Nut 65 Nm
    Note: Counterhold with open-ended wrench.


    61. Attach tie rod ball joint
    Note: Replace nut.
    • Nut 35 Nm


    62. Raise vehicle

    63. Attach lower engine compartment cover and right-hand engine splash protection if removed

    64. Lower vehicle

    65. Attach front wheel
    • Screw in 5x bolt


    66. Lower vehicle

    67. Secure front wheel
    • 5x bolts 110 Nm


    68. Attach oil dipstick guide tube at the top
    • Bolt 9 Nm


    69. Connect battery.

    70. Program volatile memories

    71. Top up engine oil.
    • Observe specified engine oil quantity

    • Start engine and allow to run until oil pressure telltale extinguishes.

    • Check engine oil level, if necessary correct.


    72. Close bonnet

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    Thanks alot!!!! A great help!

    Just had a quote of £600 from garage to do the job

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