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    Default cam belt/timing belts,

    evening to you all,

    i have to change the cam belt soon {well in 2000 miles}
    excuse me for asking a dumb question,
    is a cam belt , called a cam belt or a timing belt, or what is the difference,
    told you it was a thick question lol

    anway i have had a quick look at this website,

    carparts4less.co.uk

    and this is what i have seen ,{both called timing belts}??????

    all in MMs, lenght1296,
    width 20mm
    number of teeth 162,
    width 20mm, £17.10
    part no;325770375,

    and this,
    timing belt kit{continental}

    all the above but with i think they are pulleys aswell,
    part no;348770085, £67.20,,,,

    guys i am not sure what i need , i have been told to do the water pump at the same time,
    i can see why this must be done at the same time , but do i need these pulley things,

    and finally lol,
    could an amatuer fitt these items or is it best to go to my mechanic,

    i have a vectra 1.8 c 2003,

    any help on this would be much appreciated,

    thankyou

    jason

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    Personally, given that you're so unsure what you actually need mate I'd leave it to the mechanic, or at least watch him do it and get him to show you what he's doing...

    Not having a go or taking the **** or anything, but it's such an important part of the car you really don't want to risk it not being done correctly...

    FYI, a cambelt and a timing belt are the same thing...

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    Personally, given that you're so unsure what you actually need mate I'd leave it to the mechanic, or at least watch him do it and get him to show you what he's doing...

    Not having a go or taking the **** or anything, but it's such an important part of the car you really don't want to risk it not being done correctly...

    FYI, a cambelt and a timing belt are the same thing...

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    Trim : Basic

    Engine : 1.9

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    Cam belt and timing belt same thing mate just different names

    Best to buy a kit and water pump as very rare for a belt to just fail. Usually a pulley/ water pump failure first.

    Also get alternator belt at same.

    Depends on how capable you are with spanners. Not a hard job. But expensive if it goes wrong.

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    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66170

    Heres a how to have a look like penfold101 said expensive if you get it wrong

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    As above, at cambelt interval change have the kit fitted
    Water pump is recommended, but not essential
    Have the mechanic check and test

    Sometimes only the cambelt itself is required
    I had this when the waterpump on my previous Vectra B failed
    I paid for the cambelt part only, as I had confirmed the previous one was being removed, and had them give me it back

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    thanks guys no offence taken penfold101,
    this is what the forum is here for
    i wasnt sure and got my answer lol

    the part nos; i listed would any one know if thats the correct kit, ?
    and i suppose i will have to buy the water pump seperate,
    i dont mind buying it even if i dont need it due to the fact i bet a tenner its goes anyway lol,


    i did watch a mechanic years ago and if i remember rightly he was telling me
    that you do it with a mirror, and when the lines match up with the teeth then you fit it, {not sure as it was like 15 yrs ago,

    to be safe i will probably leave it to the mechanic as i wouldnt want to come home and explain it went wrong,

    my way of thinking is if i buy the parts the labour is only needed,

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    Trim : SE Touring

    Engine : 3.0

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    The part numbers you list aren't Vx/Op so only the part/kit manufacturer's catalogue can tell you if it's equivalent for any given OEM part.

    EPC however, does list one belt / kit for X18XE and X18XEL engines which is 162 tooth and a different one for X18XER engines which is 146 tooth.
    On that basis the 162 tooth bits are:

    Belt, Timing (Kit) - 93185845

    or

    Belt, Timing (162 teeth) - 24451895
    Tensioner, Timing Belt - 55567191
    Screw, Torx, M8 x 50, Tensioner to Oil Pump Body - 24447883
    Roller, Return, Timing Belt, 62.7mm OD - 55350580 (range 20EB2049 on)
    Roller, Return, Timing Belt, 52.5mm OD - 55352713 (range 20EK4286 on)
    Screw, Torx, M8 x 18. Guide Roller to Cylinder Head - 11093601 (2 req)

    Given there are chassis/engine number range options, it may pay to check with your Vx stealers as to the exact one for your vehicle.

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    thanks for that {all a bit confusing but hey ho }
    i have downloaded a spec on the engine from vauxhall,
    hopefully be somewhere on that,

    all that work i think its safer for the mechanic to do it,

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    If you can get trade club at your local dealer then get the parts from them... full kit & water pump, even if you don't have a trade card... the parts guys n gals can usually be persuaded.
    Then you only need to pay for the 2 hours labour... just out of interest what mileage is your motor at?

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