User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 35

Thread: So HID's are about to become an MOT failure......

  1. #1
    Forum Moderator John LE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Forfar, Scotland
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default So HID's are about to become an MOT failure......

    Or are they?

    Has anyone looked at the manual on the Vosa website

    Ref. http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...n%20Manual.pdf

    Unless i'm missing something it says
    Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps MAY be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.
    Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
    Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamp


    Method of inspection goes on to say:

    Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

    Reason for failure:

    A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

    Now to me that reads....if it's not there then it's not a fail

  2. #2
    Regular Member Hideous's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    GB
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    some cars (even new ones!) with xenons don't require self levelling devices (as it states in a vosa document). these are mostly sports cars with little luggage capacity.
    ^there is some confusion about this, but i don't see why. The MOT manual is saying that not all cars need the self levelling devices, simple as that.
    official VOSA documents are very clear when read in full.

    NEW passenger cars (like vectra) have required self levelling devices when xenons are fitted for years. Why have modified cars been exempt from having these self levelling devices until now? It is about to change, and it makes complete sense that they are doing this from a safety point of view.

  3. #3
    Forum Moderator John LE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Forfar, Scotland
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    That's the proposed manual for next year so why doesn't it mention that retro fitted kits must have self levelling/washers

    I'm not saying that i'm right but if someone sees something on that document that says they will be a failure then point me in that direction.

    I don't have HID's fitted to my vec, nor do I intent to do so but it seems that there is still a grey area even with the new rules
    Last edited by John LE; 14th December 2011 at 02:24.

  4. #4
    Vectra-sport Admin Dre's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Vectra-sport Admin
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I posted about this a few weeks back its down to the mot tester really from what i make of it , so as long as you have them aligned correctly and in a projector lamp unit i dont see why they would fail you i think its more aimed at the idiots that stick a standard hid kit in a standard light unit ( non projector ) so there is no real beam pattern and it ends up lighting everything up and dazzling other road users

  5. #5
    Regular Member AndyMaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Kent
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    The proof will be in the pudding.

  6. #6
    Regular Member chewy71's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Lincolnshire
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I think I posted the same about 2 or 3 months ago too. Worry if and when

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Oxfordshire
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chewy71 View Post
    Worry if and when


    No good speculating until real people and their cars in the real world start failing the MOT.

  8. #8
    Regular Member Critch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    wirral
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I did inspection course few months ago. Runs pretty much same as mot (we have to inspect to mot standard. And then inspected fit for role aswel)

    And we were told if something isn't their it can't be inspected therefore cannot be a fail

  9. #9
    Regular Member jimbojetset's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Stoke on Trent
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CritchvxD View Post
    I did inspection course few months ago. Runs pretty much same as mot (we have to inspect to mot standard. And then inspected fit for role aswel)

    And we were told if something isn't their it can't be inspected therefore cannot be a fail
    Cool... so if I removed all my 'bald' tyres and rolled up on just the rims it would pass ????

  10. #10
    Regular Member Grumpy1954's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Newport (Shropshire)
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I don't have HiD or any intention of fitting them, this'll sort itself out one way or the other over the next 12 months.
    I am getting fed up with these type of threads, the whole headlight/HiD thing has been done to death. New members need only Search the subject to get a couple of dozen (recent) threads.

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. 50w or 35w HID's?
    By paul_sri150 in forum Vectra C / Signum Car Chat
    Replies: 93
    Last Post: 14th April 2012, 08:21
  2. HID's
    By ahaz123 in forum Electrical & ICE (including SatNav)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 29th December 2009, 20:52
  3. HID's
    By Ziggy in forum Electrical & ICE (including SatNav)
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 7th December 2009, 14:56
  4. HID's
    By claydon_dan in forum Electrical & ICE (including SatNav)
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 5th December 2009, 22:18
  5. HID's
    By Daywalker in forum Styling
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 15th November 2009, 18:20

Visitors found this page by searching for:

Nobody landed on this page from a search engine, yet!

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •