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    Hi, my name is col, i have recently bought a 1.9cdti vectra elite (120) and must say i am / was very happy with it, very soon after buying it i realised it was/seemed to be under powered.. and with thanks to this forum i managed to sort it out.. EGR valve removed and sorted thanks to all the good posts on here..

    Now then, we get to the title subject matter, hopefully someone can help me identify a probable cause of my recent breakdown.. whilst driving home from work not hammering it, but i must admit to being a touch... shall we say vigorous.. there seemed to be a little bit of turmoil under the bonnet then a sudden loss of power.. very difficult to rev, virtualy no pull or power.. the spanner light flicked on twice but then went off, after more or less freewheeling until i could pull over (was on town centre road) i finaly stopped only to be overtaken by a large cloud of smoke !!!
    I stopped the engine popped the bonnet expecting the worst..nothing much amiss ??? fired her back up, hey presto... large plumes of smoke. Thought better of it and left the car until the morning when i could get it recovered back home..

    Now then.. there is no loss of coolant, no mixing of water or oil in either the filler cap area, expansion tank or indeed on the dipstick.
    the smoke is mainly white in colour with a possible tinge of blue, the smoke is barreling out the exhaust with some whisps of smoke from both the filler cap area and the dipstick tube.
    there is also oil leaking at what looks like a flexible mesh type union on the exhaust ???

    I pressume that it could be the head gasket or the turbo or even a piston ring problem, my question is in you opinion which is the more common and what other problems could these produce.. also if anyone has had the same problem what were the costs of repair just so i have a ball park figure to go into shock with !!

    I believe it is the z19dt engine (120) and its on a 04 plate elite, with 107000 miles on it, the timing belt was done at 100000..

    Any thoughts or information would be helpfull.. Cheers.

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    Vehicle : vectra-c

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    Year : 2004

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    If the engine oil filler cap is on the left its a 120, if its on the right its a 150, either way it may pay to remove the large hose on the right hand side, look for loads of oil or metal swarf unfortunately it could be the turbo,
    inter-cooler-throttle body pipe 150 shown in this thread below, & the 120 shown in the attached pic.

    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showth...=107034&page=2

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    Thanks Wizard... Yeah it's deff the 120, that much i found out when i did the EGR valve... at the time i was unclear if it was the 150 or the 120, luckily it was the 120 and i didn't have to worry about the swirl flaps..
    But yeah, will deff remove said hose and check it out.. i was hoping it was just the head gasket, but i too think it is the turbo.

    Do you know of there ever being piston rings going these cars or is that problem few and far between ???

    Once again cheers for the advice.

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    To be honest not heard of ring problems but you do hear of turbo problems, If you have oil in the exhaust flexi cant be good.

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    Turbo, especially if there's oil leaking from the exhaust flexi!!

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    as above sounds like turbo bud i think you will find play in the turbo bearing when you check it

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    Thanks for the advice gents.. any ideas on costs just as a ball park figure.. it'll be a local Vx specialist doing the work.

    Col.

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    had pipe off... loads of oil, far too much by my reckoning.. yup, looks like turbo gone... cheers fellas.

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    How much to fix it lee? Back on road?

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    turbo is easy compared to a head gasket, 2nd hand turbo for about £150-£200, few gaskets and 4hrs or so to change it over. Dont forget the flushing of the pipes and intercooler though
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