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    opinions...... which is better the 2.0 turbo or the cdti 150....... as a balance between power torque n mpg etc......

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    Vehicle : Insignia Tourer

    Trim : Elite

    Engine : 2.0 CDTI (160ps)

    Year : 2010

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    Everyone that's got a 2.0T is going to say the 2.0T and everyone that's got a 1.9 CDTI is going to say that. You won't get a subjective answer to this question.

    As a rule, the diesels have more torque but the petrols get more bhp at the lower range re-maps (stage 1 - 3 ish). As it's torque that matters most for performance the diesels will usually win. The main difference is the petrols are easier to tune even higher than the diesels.

    But it really is 6 of one half a dozen of the other in standard form in my opinion and it depends what you want to achieve with it at the end of the day.

    As for MPG, the petrols can't get close to the diesels. I get about 38mpg out of my 2.0T on a motorway cruise, but round town it's a lot less, the diesels will do 45 to 55+
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    lol i was torn between the 2 on which to buy but i love the torque of my diesel tho scarey how quick the double 00s approach.... not that it gets driven that fast lol

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    As above.

    Just got 43 mpg on a round trip to Poole 300+ miles.

    Given the same upgrades and cost you will achieve higher figure with the 2.0T although trq will be higher with derv. Too much however and it's a new clutch and dmf (more or less anything above a remap). Not the same with the 2.0T.

    A few of the 2.0T guys are planning big things now. I myself am aiming for around 260/270 bhp with cira 370 nm. That just requires map, injectors, turbo and exhaust. Think it would cost more with the dervs but unsure.

    Think this thread will just turn into a we are better than you so as the dragons say. I'm out.

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    43 is impressive n that sounds good be some serious fun when its finished

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    Thats like asking the question... which is better white or black



    What I like about the cars is...

    1.9 CDTi - Very tunable and great results, nice torquey engine and lots of power but short gear ratio's means more gear changes and short power deliveries.

    2.0 Turbo - Never owned one but driven Fils. Happy to rev lightweight 4 pot, good smooth power delivery and again very tuneable.

    If you want BHP and Torque = Vectra VXR tuned

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    depends on ur miles, remember diesels are only economical if your puttin down loads of miles annually. If it was me id b plumbing for a 2.0t but am only doin ruffly 6,000miles annually

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    Quote Originally Posted by starykokot View Post
    depends on ur miles, remember diesels are only economical if your puttin down loads of miles annually. If it was me id b plumbing for a 2.0t but am only doin ruffly 6,000miles annually
    was running a 2.0 astra sri before which i know is nothing special but was puttin 40 50 a week in that n onli gettin 240 to 260 miles at a push wheras the vectra dose that to 30 to 35 quid lol n a vxr would be verrry nice but seein as im onli 20 i think the insurance would tell me to sing for it lol

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    Vehicle : Golf 7

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    Engine : 2.0 TDI 184PS

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    The CDTI like all diesels make their torque mid range and power comes in usually around 4,000rpm.

    Petrols won't make the torque of a diesel BUT also unlike diesel they don't run of steam early, and will give very good power delivery upto 7,000rpm.

    Petrol - heads down - will always win the better driveability award and no matter how much you have tuned a diesel it will always sound like a tractor.

    Deisel is for that lazy feel which I love and moderate pulling with good economy in the same bag.

    2.0T though on looking at it's performance figures gives good mpg standard too. If I had a petrol it would be the 2.0T without question. Very good engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoons View Post
    Thats like asking the question... which is better white or black



    What I like about the cars is...

    1.9 CDTi - Very tunable and great results, nice torquey engine and lots of power but short gear ratio's means more gear changes and short power deliveries.

    2.0 Turbo - Never owned one but driven Fils. Happy to rev lightweight 4 pot, good smooth power delivery and again very tuneable.

    If you want BHP and Torque = Vectra VXR tuned
    only jus twigged.... is that you in my copy of total vauxhall?

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