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    at work we have a luton van, the company have there own driving assessors and i was one of the people being assessed, so they took a copy of my licence paper and photo part and i drove the van for about 30 mins just to show them i can drive, i passed and so did this other chap, thois was back in march this year so thats 6 months we have been driving this van,,

    anyway people have left the company so they a getting a new driver for the van my mates son applyed and they said to him you have a interview on so and so date, 20 mins leter ethe manager phones him up and says sorry we cant interview you due to insurance wise you have to be 25.

    my mates just called me because i aint in work today,

    but i was like WTF im 24 and the other chap is 22 but they have been letting us drive it for 6 months, so im guessing we have been driving with no insurance for 6 months? what would you guys do if it was you, because right now wait till i go in work tomorrow they wont hear the last of it

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    What would I do? Ask for details of what insurance cover they have on the van - i.e. don't just assume you've been driving with no insurance just because of the story about your mate's son, and don't go off on one at your employers without hard evidence.

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    ask for the insurance details before you drive again as at the end of the day you will be the one who gets the points

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6009tristanb View Post
    ask for the insurance details before you drive again as at the end of the day you will be the one who gets the points


    thats what i mean ive just had 6 come off my licence, thats true ill go in and ask to see the details

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    I do not know a lot about this. But if the employer took a copy of the license, and the chris1804 is under the insurance company's age limit. Then are the employer not responsible for not checking his age, as his date of birth will be on his driver's license?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanya_baby View Post
    I do not know a lot about this. But if the employer took a copy of the license, and the chris1804 is under the insurance company's age limit. Then are the employer not responsible for not checking his age, as his date of birth will be on his driver's license?
    Partially true. IF he's not insured (emphasis on the "if"), then if stopped by the police he is the one who need to produce his insurance certificate if asked by the officer, and if after 7 days he still couldn't produce it then he could be prosecuted for it. The employer could be prosecuted for the different offence of allowing someone they know isn't insured, to drive their vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzy View Post
    The employer could be prosecuted for the different offence of allowing someone they know isn't insured, to drive their vehicle.

    if it turns out to be true is there anythink i can do? because its my licence that has been at stake

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1804 View Post
    if it turns out to be true is there anythink i can do? because its my licence that has been at stake
    Retrospectively, I doubt it... but I'd insist on seeing documentary proof thet you're insured before you drive it again...

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    Jezzy is right. There is the wonderful "use/cause/permit" laws. It is up to you as the driver (user) of the vehicle to ensure you are legal to drive on public roads and the vehicle is roadworthy. If you get stopped by the old bill and there are any offences because your employer has told you to take the van out, they then commit the offence of "causing" the vehicle to be used in an illegal manner. I wouldn't go off on one at your boss but you are simply being responsible be ensuring you are legally using the works van. Some people only find out they are not correctly insured once they have had a accident.

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    You employer has a duty of care to ensure that you are safe at work, this includes making sure the van is legal and fit for purpose BUT as the driver it legally your responsibility to ensure you are insured.
    I would ask, politely, to see the insurance certificate and explain any concerns that you have, the fact that your employers photocopied your driving license then they have documentory proof of your age etc, I can't see them allowing you to break the law, the repercussions for them would be massive and that's just from HSE never mind the courts.

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