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    Hi guys . I'm just wondering if you can put a turbo onto a 2.2 Sri 2003 ? If so is there much hassle ? really fancy a turbo and wasn't sure ..

    cheers guys for any info

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    Don't know much there BUT as the 2.0T and 2.2 share the same block I don't see there being much of an issue tbh.

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    If you've got enough money it's doable, but you'll need to have VERY deep pockets by the time you've replaced the ECU and had the map re-written to allow for the extra engine size, half the wiring loom, sensors, added an intercooler and all pipe work and hoses and gawd knows what else, you'd be better off buying a 2.0T
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    Well I hope it can be added AND without to much hassle B-) cheers gazza. ;-)

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    Can you? Yes. Hassle? Much more than you'd expect. The ECU knows nothing about the turbo, so you need to sort that somehow (bespoke, standalone ECU probably). There are no sensors on the car for the turbo hardware, they all need adding in and then need to be included in the ECU programme. You obviously need an intercooler (probably the only easy job). You need oil lines to the turbo for lubrication, and water lines for cooling. You'll need new injectors. A bigger fuel pump. That's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head. At the end of all that, you'd spend months trying to get it set up correctly, multiple rolling road runs with details of air-fuel ratios etc, which you'd show to your remapper as proof that it was still over-fuelling, under-boosting, etc etc. And having spent all that money you'd still have an engine that likes to give its timing chain a hard time.

    Someone's done ALL the hard work for you by developing a turbo version of that engine - the Z20NET, engineered by Saab; and they also got rid of the chain problems as well. Just change your car, it'll be a LOT easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srikev View Post
    Well I hope it can be added AND without to much hassle B-) cheers gazza. ;-)

    I wouldn't discount Ian's post though. As he has a 2.0T.

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    Get yourself over to z22se.co.uk (your engine is a z22se). Fount of all knowledge on that engine, you'll find that the general concensus is to get turbo sort of performance your only option is supercharging it. Either option though is going to cost you a lot more than the car is worth, so you really need to be sure you want to do it and have a lot of spare cash.

    Seriously though, if you're going to spend that sort of money, don't spend it on a 2003 2.2, go out and buy yourself a 2.0T
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    Hahahaha thanks for spoiling my dream Ian. lol... I think I'll give it a miss .. thanks fir the reply guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzy View Post
    Can you? Yes. Hassle? Much more than you'd expect. The ECU knows nothing about the turbo, so you need to sort that somehow (bespoke, standalone ECU probably). There are no sensors on the car for the turbo hardware, they all need adding in and then need to be included in the ECU programme. You obviously need an intercooler (probably the only easy job). You need oil lines to the turbo for lubrication, and water lines for cooling. You'll need new injectors. A bigger fuel pump. That's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head. At the end of all that, you'd spend months trying to get it set up correctly, multiple rolling road runs with details of air-fuel ratios etc, which you'd show to your remapper as proof that it was still over-fuelling, under-boosting, etc etc. And having spent all that money you'd still have an engine that likes to give its timing chain a hard time.

    Someone's done ALL the hard work for you by developing a turbo version of that engine - the Z20NET, engineered by Saab; and they also got rid of the chain problems as well. Just change your car, it'll be a LOT easier.


    . Think ill buy a saab . lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-Highlander View Post
    Get yourself over to z22se.co.uk (your engine is a z22se). Fount of all knowledge on that engine, you'll find that the general concensus is to get turbo sort of performance your only option is supercharging it. Either option though is going to cost you a lot more than the car is worth, so you really need to be sure you want to do it and have a lot of spare cash.

    Seriously though, if you're going to spend that sort of money, don't spend it on a 2003 2.2, go out and buy yourself a 2.0T
    No I won't be doing.that now . think its time for a car change ... thanks again.
    * walks away sulking * haha

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