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    Default VED and road charging

    I was out yesterday and found I spent more time driving around dropped drains, pot valley's (they were to big to be holes most of them) and as it was a client I see fairly regularly know these have all been there for over a year.
    So my proposition to form a campaign / petition is this.

    Change VED to a road miles charge.

    BUT!!!!!!

    the RULES.

    1. if you drive 20,000 miles per annum and under the current system you pay £185, the goal would be to pay roughly the same overall.

    2. In order to pay this £185.00 the roads would have to be in excellent condition, any sub standard roads would be free miles! This is not difficult to prove especially for iphone users

    3. Once a road is improved and of a certain standard this information would be logged and recorded in general Satnav systems and a rating designed to show the quickest, shortest and "kindest" route options.

    Just an idea but I am SICK to the pit of the constant avoidance and swerving needed to try to avoid the worst (not all) of the damage to roads and am at the point where I think a protest is long overdue to have the VED spent on the purpose it is raised for?

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    Can see your point but you have to remember wh yit would never bring the benfit you think - greedy politicians. They would intrduce this and still charge the VED too.

    Then at 20,000miles/annum, and average of 40mpg, and £6.37/Gallon @ 48% fuel duty, they get £1,528 per annum off of us anyway (albeit this depends on how many miles you do). They should pay it with that. I have just depressed myself now working that out. We are seriously being ripped right off.

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    If we didn't have such high fuel prices at the moment i'd say that we should add the price of road tax to the price of fuel and then you pay for what you use, It's got to work out better simply because all of the scum that drive without a valid VED disc will have to pay it when they fill up..

    Off topic slightly, but when looking to order a vehicle tracker recently for my new car i came across a site that does pay as you drive insurance, and that was stupidly expensive!!

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    Or get some sixteen inch rims and you can just drive over them all lol! I had 18" vxr reps and loved them.

    When I needed new tyres I put my 16's back on until I could afford the tyres and the freedom was so immense that I kept them and sold the 18's!!!!

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    We already pay road charges
    The more fuel you buy, the more tax and duty you pay

    The VED is just a paper exercise for vehicle licensing
    However this pays for national roads

    Also, don't forget your local Council Tax, a proportion of this pays for local roads
    This has remained unchanged for several years
    The money from duty is then passed over to local Councils to make up the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-Pete View Post
    If we didn't have such high fuel prices at the moment i'd say that we should add the price of road tax to the price of fuel and then you pay for what you use, It's got to work out better simply because all of the scum that drive without a valid VED disc will have to pay it when they fill up..
    If you could add in Insurance to the mix as well with fuel we will have cracked it, you could have budget (third party) and Vpower fully comp with glass cover

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    obviously the hgvs & buses must be damaging the roads more than cars.
    they already pay more tax (about £650 a year for articulated i believe) but perhaps this should be increased to pay more towards repairs, or better still get a much more durable surface laid down on all heavily trafficked roads.
    there will be a knock-on effect of that for sure - foods & goods prices would go up as the hauliers pass the cost on to the consumer.

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    Road tax on a sliding scale according to vehicle laden weight. The more you damage the roads, the more you pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_k_sri View Post
    Road tax on a sliding scale according to vehicle laden weight. The more you damage the roads, the more you pay.
    Spot on, never known emissions to damage road surfaces.

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    The roads around here are getting worse, some of them look like they've been strafed.
    There's a cut through road near me that by passes the town, very busy. It had diabolical potholes a year ago, so they filled them. They've dug it up 3 times since, and are doing so again. There's now a 100yd long stretch of repair 2ft out from kerb narrowing in, knocks a car off line, god help any bikers hit it in the wet.
    Something need to be done.

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