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    Unhappy UPDATE - Non starter after filter change

    Decided after a week that the car was not well... so got it uplifted by local garage.

    Well, got the dreaded phone call a few mins ago.........not good news.

    So far they have found:

    The timing belt has slipped and mechanic mentioned possible internal damage to valves etc.
    High pressure fuel pump needs replacing.
    Filter housing needs replacing due to filling up, pressurising and the fuel not being able to escape, leaking somewhere.
    Pump in fuel tank needs replacing
    Possible cracked/split fuel pipes between tank and filter housing.

    Dont fancy the bill to get this sorted out

    All this due to changing a fuel filter, done 2 before with no probs.

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    what engine you have mate?
    did you fill the fuel filter housing/casing with fresh fuel before you put it in ??

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    wish i could get my fuel filter out of the holder on my cdti 150 tried a screwdriver down the back but it wont budge, cant seem to get the knack???? is it best to put fuel back in before the filter, never got that far

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    Engine is 2005 1.9 cdti 150 (52k on clock)

    No, I did not fill the filter housing with fresh diesel

    Reason - I have never found a way to fill the housing with fresh diesel, then get the ring tight enough. Always removed housing from crash box to change filter.

    Just used the ignition on 3 times routine to fill housing and worked ok in the past.

    Why, does filling it up with fresh diesel help a lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mads View Post
    wish i could get my fuel filter out of the holder on my cdti 150 tried a screwdriver down the back but it wont budge, cant seem to get the knack???? is it best to put fuel back in before the filter, never got that far

    The fuel filter housing should just pull straight up,mine wasnt tight at all.
    Whe i replaced the filter, i turned on ignition 3 or 4 times util the fuel pump filled the housing, started then first time no problems.

    Was this the correct procedure?

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    i have always filled it and have been advised to to stop any air locks or pumps etc etc running dry and unlubricated. if not it can churn and churn and wreck things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post
    The fuel filter housing should just pull straight up,mine wasnt tight at all.
    Whe i replaced the filter, i turned on ignition 3 or 4 times util the fuel pump filled the housing, started then first time no problems.

    Was this the correct procedure?
    I was pulling and pulling but i didnt want to break it so stopped, ive read that sometimes you need new clips as they break but i just cant see where to release the clips so may have to take it to the garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAN B View Post
    Decided after a week that the car was not well... so got it uplifted by local garage.

    Well, got the dreaded phone call a few mins ago.........not good news.

    So far they have found:

    The timing belt has slipped and mechanic mentioned possible internal damage to valves etc.
    High pressure fuel pump needs replacing.
    Filter housing needs replacing due to filling up, pressurising and the fuel not being able to escape, leaking somewhere.
    Pump in fuel tank needs replacing
    Possible cracked/split fuel pipes between tank and filter housing.

    Dont fancy the bill to get this sorted out

    All this due to changing a fuel filter, done 2 before with no probs.
    sorry alan b to jump on, hope you get everything sorted

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    Quote Originally Posted by John3v36 View Post
    i have always filled it and have been advised to to stop any air locks or pumps etc etc running dry and unlubricated. if not it can churn and churn and wreck things!
    Only applicable to dti's, not cdti's as the latter are self priming via a tank pump.

    What he did was correct and I would have done it the same way. Only thing I can think of it that the hp diesel pump has seized and caused cam belt to jump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAN B View Post
    Decided after a week that the car was not well... so got it uplifted by local garage.

    Well, got the dreaded phone call a few mins ago.........not good news.

    So far they have found:

    The timing belt has slipped and mechanic mentioned possible internal damage to valves etc.
    High pressure fuel pump needs replacing.
    Filter housing needs replacing due to filling up, pressurising and the fuel not being able to escape, leaking somewhere.
    Pump in fuel tank needs replacing
    Possible cracked/split fuel pipes between tank and filter housing.

    Dont fancy the bill to get this sorted out

    All this due to changing a fuel filter, done 2 before with no probs.
    seems like they are just guessing to me and changing the whole fuel system done hundreds of filter changes on the Alfa and the Vauxhalls using the same engine and never heard of any of those things thats they have mentioned

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