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    Default 89k miles my inlet manifold swirl bar has had its fill

    My Turn.

    Chugging start up, lots of smoke. Spanner light.

    Bonnet open. Checks at the swirl bar. On its side off the swirl bar pins.

    Gunk and muck on swirl valve number 4 from left to right. Dry paste on swirl valve number 3. 1 and 2 still dry. 3 and 4 up and down movement significant to have made the swirl bar fall off.

    Swirl bar condition. Ball joints esp, number 3 worn out.

    Tried the cap ends fix. Bought some cap ends from screwfix. Just under £3.

    Glue didn't hold. Could try a fix a second time, let the glue set longer....

    Swirl bar rod came off again on its side.

    Call out to AA. Have the breakdown repair cover. Driver said it is not a roadside repair and have been preliminary proposed for the breakdown repair cover. The garage has to quote and call the AA tomorrow for the go ahead.

    Repaired to my local garage. They have not done one before. However, I have printed off the Pierburg PDF, the 38 page how 2, a pic of the revised manifold. S B OK? Multi vehicle Garage attached to Palmers Peugeot dealing with all makes of cars with dealership back up.

    So
    Manifold approx £200,
    actuator, some have been got on here for around £100,
    Gasket, £12
    And have cambelt and waterpump done at the same time whilst at it.
    Cambelt kit £150?
    Waterpump £50?

    Total parts I think, £512?

    4 hrs labour time for a competent garage? £50 p/h?

    Total £700 to £800 for all done, cambelt waterpump and intake manifold?

    This could be good timing, as I was about to spend £350 next Weds on the waterpump and cambelt myself alone.

    So with the AA Breakdown repair cover up to £500, I should be bang on the money with all jobs above, with the amount I have to pay over the top of this, (when I have claimed back the money from AA thereafter) and at least it has happened now and I wont have paid for the cambelt job, then had to pay again in the near future when the intake manifold changed over.

    What do you guys think on costings?

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    Result for you then.
    How much for the AA cover? Any link thanks.

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    Got to wait for the AA authorisation code tomo yet. Lets hold our breath for now first.

    http://www.theaa.com/breakdownrepaircover/

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    Anyone please, your prices you had on this one. Main dealer, non main dealer?

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    Cam belt kit & water pump can be purchased from euro parts for around £110. manifold & gasket around £170, fitting varies depending on the garage or guy.

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    I had new inlet manifold, waterpump, cambelt kit and necessary gaskets which i supplied myself to a local fiat specialist, all work Inc parts labour and vat came to about £520.00, but everyone just seems to pay about the £800 up Mark on here, seems nobody can be bothered to shop around, just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by durham4416 View Post
    I had new inlet manifold, waterpump, cambelt kit and necessary gaskets which i supplied myself to a local fiat specialist, all work Inc parts labour and vat came to about £520.00, but everyone just seems to pay about the £800 up Mark on here, seems nobody can be bothered to shop around, just my opinion
    Thats good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hertscol View Post
    My Turn.

    Chugging start up, lots of smoke. Spanner light.

    Bonnet open. Checks at the swirl bar. On its side off the swirl bar pins.

    Gunk and muck on swirl valve number 4 from left to right. Dry paste on swirl valve number 3. 1 and 2 still dry. 3 and 4 up and down movement significant to have made the swirl bar fall off.

    Swirl bar condition. Ball joints esp, number 3 worn out.

    Tried the cap ends fix. Bought some cap ends from screwfix. Just under £3.

    Glue didn't hold. Could try a fix a second time, let the glue set longer....

    Swirl bar rod came off again on its side.

    Call out to AA. Have the breakdown repair cover. Driver said it is not a roadside repair and have been preliminary proposed for the breakdown repair cover. The garage has to quote and call the AA tomorrow for the go ahead.

    Repaired to my local garage. They have not done one before. However, I have printed off the Pierburg PDF, the 38 page how 2, a pic of the revised manifold. S B OK? Multi vehicle Garage attached to Palmers Peugeot dealing with all makes of cars with dealership back up.

    So
    Manifold approx £200,
    actuator, some have been got on here for around £100,
    Gasket, £12
    And have cambelt and waterpump done at the same time whilst at it.
    Cambelt kit £150?
    Waterpump £50?

    Total parts I think, £512?

    4 hrs labour time for a competent garage? £50 p/h?

    Total £700 to £800 for all done, cambelt waterpump and intake manifold?

    This could be good timing, as I was about to spend £350 next Weds on the waterpump and cambelt myself alone.

    So with the AA Breakdown repair cover up to £500, I should be bang on the money with all jobs above, with the amount I have to pay over the top of this, (when I have claimed back the money from AA thereafter) and at least it has happened now and I wont have paid for the cambelt job, then had to pay again in the near future when the intake manifold changed over.

    What do you guys think on costings?
    You jammy git!!!!.FELIXX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durham4416 View Post
    I had new inlet manifold, waterpump, cambelt kit and necessary gaskets which i supplied myself to a local fiat specialist, all work Inc parts labour and vat came to about £520.00, but everyone just seems to pay about the £800 up Mark on here, seems nobody can be bothered to shop around, just my opinion
    Can't remember exactly how much mine was, but was about £800 ish, included all your parts plus the actuator - I didn't supply the parts, they did so your price considering you did the leg work for parts, and minus the actuator is about the norm.

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    Garage has got back to me. £986.40.

    Supplying a Vx main dealer manifold, a vx main dealer actuator, a vx main dealer gasket

    Euro Car Parts waterpump and cambelt kit.

    £360 of the above figure will be the labour. Making parts costs £626.40. This seems high.

    They said they wouldnt be happy getting the manifold parts from non Vx, but would get the waterpump and cambelt kit from Euro Car Parts as it is a standard kit thereabouts. If I got the manifold elsewhere and supplied it, they would not warranty the work and I would have to rely on the supplier of the parts to provide the warranty of the product.

    Will the AA breakdown repair cover still honour the £500 contribution if I get and supply all parts and the garage charges the labour to fit?

    Please help with reputable vauxhall specialists to get the manifold from. And if it will be the revised manifold.

    Rgds
    Colin

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