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    I've not had the Vectra Sri Direct 2.2 for all that long, the dealer said that they'd done a minor service on it but I wasn't convinced, plus the chain sounded noisy so I decided at the very least to do an oil change using Mobil 1 and a good quality filter. I ran engine flush through it for 10 minutes and thoroughly drained the oil. It looks like at least the filters not be changed in ages, take a look at the picture I took. The oil was thick black too. However the air filter was brand new. Now its changed the chain is quiet as a mouse and the car is a lot quieter.

    I now have just one question, there is a low 'farting' type noise when setting off at slow speeds (low revs), it seems to be around the engine bay somewhere, might be something loose or maybe its the exhaust baffles rattling ?? Nay ideas anyone before I visit the dealer whilst its under warranty for 3 months ???

    Love the car though, drives very nice and rapid. Took it to France and it did 450 miles on a tank !! (left very empty with flashing fuel light) !

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    Good God!!!! That filters not been changed for a while!!!!!!!

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    Thats what I thought ! It looks like its full of cack. Wonder if it was anything to do with the engine flush I did before changing it ? The oils now clear and fluid.

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    try www.z22se.co.uk for more info mate .... you 100% it still dont have a rattle ?

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    There is a rattle that sounds like a dull deep noise from somewhere, I can't work out where though, but only a low revs when setting off.

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    sounds like a vauxhall service ;-) was this a main dealer ?

    If so walk in with said filter and service book and ask to see the service manager, proceeded to empty bag containing filter onto his desk then show him the service stamp.

    no need to speak see what he offers you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DasArab View Post
    Good God!!!! That filters not been changed for a while!!!!!!!
    Looks like it's done its job though.

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    Yes it was a main agent Vauxhall dealer that left the filter out of the oil change, how long would you say from experience that that filter has been in, years and mileage estimate ??

    I can't understand when its a 5 minute job why a garage would miss changing the filter, it makes you wonder if they even bother changing the oil at times, the air filters been changed as I suspect they think the customer is more likely to check this.

    I firmly believe that if I hadn't checked the oil and filter it could have lead to chain failure as it was getting noisy. Now its virtually unheard even with the bonnet up.
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    My Vectra 2.2 Direct Z22YH on a '57 plate has 42k miles. Initial startup 8/10 times is very rough sounding as described above by jkspoff. It generally calms down sooner when the weather is mild but takes a while if cold. It's much quieter and stays that way after a few mins driving.

    It is due a service in April & another forum '2.2 Direct Rough Engine Noise on start up' suggests it may be solved by replacing the chain tensioner or complete kit. However, other threads suggest lack of oil pressure which would make sense re: a dirty filter.

    I am not a mechanic and do not want to spend £600 with a dealer for a whole kit if unsure of the actual problem. Could it be a dirty filter reducing pressure at startup? Will an oil change (it's done 12k miles since the last) and replacing filters do the trick or is it becoming more apparent that this chain tensioner is a common failure on 2.2 Direct's around this mileage? If so, can anyone recommend a VX Tech near St Albans, Hertfordshire.

    Cheers, Rob.

    Oh, & Re: the low 'farting' type noise when setting off at slow speeds (low revs), my VX dealer had me try high octane fuels & they test drove it to hear the symptom only to tell me it is an anti-knock value on the direct engine to help prevent compression build up when driving low speed in too high a gear. The driver should change down a gear. Basically, he said it helops save the pressure on the head gasket by means of this noise. Whether I grapsed this theory correctly or not, I am not sure (I am not technically minded) but it's something like that.

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    I would definitely try an oil and filter change before trying any expensive alternatives, my filter as above was clogged up and since putting some decent oil and filter in it it's quiet as a mouse and tick over is stable. Cost £35 all in, Mobil 1 and Unipart filter. When you have it done just ask to watch as they usually don't mind. It's cheaper that getting your hands dirty ! The 2.2 is a great refined engine manufacturers by GM and used in te Saab and Vauxhalls. I'd get the oil changed every 10k at that price. As the chain is oil driven too.

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