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    Default Brought A vectra yesterday and the clutch pedal has dropped?

    Hi Guys,

    Im new to this forum, first vectra for me! and what a way to start!

    - Clutch Pedal has dropped, will not rise by its self, but can be pulled up..

    - When dropped it does not engage the clutch

    - I can put the car into gear when the car is off, and it will engage, and 'bunny hop' forward

    - When pressing the clutch pedal up and down, I can hear fluid from the engine bay area (Looking at the front, to the left side, closest to the windscreen)

    Any advise would be great

    Car is a 2005 Vectra 1.9 CDTI with 100,000 on the clock.

    Thanks guys

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    How's the fluid level in the reservoir? (it's shares the same one as the brakes)

    Sounds like a problem with the clutch master cylinder, not a difficult thing to replace. Maybe the seals have gone, wouldn't surprise me on a car with 100k on the clock.

    Follow the pipe from the bottom of the fluid reservoir to find the clutch master cylinder, then follow the pipe from that, round the back of the engine (I think) to the top of the bell housing. Any sign of corrosion or leakage?

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    sounds slave cylinder or master cylinder

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    Im sure the fluid was fine.. But I will check again.

    I will also check for corrosion at the same time

    How would I know if its the slave cylinder or master cylinder?

    Thanks for the responses guys!

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    Also check the bleed nipple on the gearbox.

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    Check the footwell for a broken spring.

    About £1.50 for a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johal87 View Post
    Im sure the fluid was fine.. But I will check again.

    I will also check for corrosion at the same time

    How would I know if its the slave cylinder or master cylinder?

    Thanks for the responses guys!
    With difficulty... I'm not sure.

    I've got a strange issue with my clutch pedal, it doesn't slip, but the biting point seems to intermittently change position when I'm driving. I'm praying it's the master cylinder as it's an easy job to do. Slave requires taking out the gear box as far as I know

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    my vectra did the exact same as this 2 seconds after i bought it lol, i would same your looking at the hydraulic release bearing/ slave cylinder(check fro fluid leaking from the bell housing and the fluid level dropping when you pump the clutch pedal, either will indicate that that is the problem). what happens is the dual mass flywheel sticks in causing the release bearing to have to reach too far to disengage the clutch, over extending it and causing it to blow the seal, so im sorry to say your probably looking at a new dmf and clutch kit. there is a possibility that it could be the master cylinder but they tend not to go, the only thing you can basically guarantee is that is is something in the hydraulic circuit as the clutch is not disengaging.

    mine is a 54 plate 2005 1.9 150 aswell with 136k on the clock at the time, with 100k it will be almost definatly in need of a dmf

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    With that in mind, if only a seals blown, why would the DMF and clutch need changing?

    I brought the car as a cheap runner, so I didnt want to spend large amounts on that car, im handy with tools and my dads a mechanic, so im hoping its just a simple fix

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    because it is more than likely that the dmf has caused it, sometimes the dmfs stick and when they do the plate that the clutch sits on sits lower in the housing of the flywheel (quite noticeable so when you compare the old and new ones) this is what makes the release bearing overstretch so if you dont replace it you wont get far before it goes again. im not saying its a definate but if you loosing fluid and its not comeing from the bleed nipple or the pipework or you have fluid leaking form the bell housing the box has to come off and 99% its gonna be he release bearing and ide say 80% that it will be the dmf thats caused it. once the box is off it is easy to check the dmf, if you cant turn the inner plate then its knackered and if you measure the distance from the outer casing and the face of the inner plate and go to a vx dealers i cant see why they would have a problem with you measuring the same distance on a new one they almost certainly will have in stock if you really want to be sure.

    it could be something more simple but if there is nothing obvious then whatever the cause its a box off job, if your dad a mechanic its not actually that bad if a job to do, i dropped the front frame to ease access and even working with limited tools and never having done one before (im training as a technician atm) i got it done in a weekend and a couple evenings and could probably do it again in a weekend no probs

    a few checks simple checks you can do: pump the pedal several times and see if the fluid drops, if it doesn't the likelihood is its the master cylinder (or needs a bleed but that is unlikely as it has happened all of a sudden),if it does then you need to look for where it is escaping from and as said before if its from inside the box its bad news unfortunately and is at least gonna be a new release bearing which is not much cheaper than a clutch kit tbh
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