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    Default Small rant to VX

    As a company car user, there are of course a number of reasons to choose a car (if you have a choice that is). But to my employer, the main decision maker is the P11D value.

    Back in 2006 we bought 3 Vectras. 2 lasted to 65k miles before repair bills meant new cars were in order, and the 3rd is going now with a possible 2k bill for a new gearbox.

    So we switched to Mazda, unlimited mileage warranty upto 5 years. However following a change round, I decided that I fancied getting back into a VX, a 160 SRi Nav VX-Line with a couple of options.

    Here's some figures and why we won't EVER be going back to VX

    2006 Vectra SRi Nav XP - List £21k, bought through VX fleet for £15.5k

    2009 Mazda Sport 2.2D 185bhp - List £21K, bought for £18k

    2011 Mazda Sport 2.2D 180bhp - List £23.5K, OTR £20.5k - Inc Metallic

    2011 Insignia SRi 160 Nav Vx-line with flexride and tech pack - List £27k, OTR 21k!!!!

    So a £500 difference, but a massive £3.5k hike to the tax! What are VX playing at?

    It's ridiculous, why are they fleecing the company car buyers? What is the point, they will never sell a car at list. I can handle a £2.5k rise in tax increase for the new 6, but a £6k increase to get into an Insignia? Get real.

    It's a shame as I really wanted an Insignia

    Rant over

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    Switch to decaf fella.

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    lol I dont drink coffee.

    It's just a shame, VX could knock £3k off the list, halve the discounts and still sell for the same price. Are they in cahoots with the government? Do they get a cut of my company car tax?

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    as a fellow company car driver, i agree that it is pretty silly that we have to pay tax on the list price of the car, including the VAT. So you pay tax, on a tax, on a price virtually no-one pays.

    However, since the personal BIK tax is paid on CO2 emissions of the vehicle and these have dropped a fair bit in the last few years, I don't think the impact is as bad.

    I've changed from a 2.2 petrol vectra, to a 1.7 diesel astra - result is my personal tax liability has halved, despite the list price of the astra being £7k more than the vectra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andythilo View Post
    As a company car user, there are of course a number of reasons to choose a car (if you have a choice that is). But to my employer, the main decision maker is the P11D value.

    Back in 2006 we bought 3 Vectras. 2 lasted to 65k miles before repair bills meant new cars were in order, and the 3rd is going now with a possible 2k bill for a new gearbox.

    So we switched to Mazda, unlimited mileage warranty upto 5 years. However following a change round, I decided that I fancied getting back into a VX, a 160 SRi Nav VX-Line with a couple of options.

    Here's some figures and why we won't EVER be going back to VX

    2006 Vectra SRi Nav XP - List £21k, bought through VX fleet for £15.5k

    2009 Mazda Sport 2.2D 185bhp - List £21K, bought for £18k

    2011 Mazda Sport 2.2D 180bhp - List £23.5K, OTR £20.5k - Inc Metallic

    2011 Insignia SRi 160 Nav Vx-line with flexride and tech pack - List £27k, OTR 21k!!!!

    So a £500 difference, but a massive £3.5k hike to the tax! What are VX playing at?

    It's ridiculous, why are they fleecing the company car buyers? What is the point, they will never sell a car at list. I can handle a £2.5k rise in tax increase for the new 6, but a £6k increase to get into an Insignia? Get real.

    It's a shame as I really wanted an Insignia

    Rant over
    You have got this sooooooo wrong. You will not pay £3500 more in tax to have an Insignia over the Mazda.

    Both the Insignia CDTi 160 and the Mazda CDTi 180 Sport fall into the 20% tax bracket for company car drivers based on their emmisions.

    So, based on a 40% tax earner.

    The £27000 Insignia will have a BIK tax Liability of £5400
    The £23500 Mazda will have a BIK tax liability of £4700

    You will pay 40% of the above two figures as your tax liability for the car.

    Insignia £2160
    Mazda £1880

    So per month, the car's will cost you this :-

    Insignia £180 a month in company car tax
    Mazda £157 a month in company car tax.

    So the Insignia will cost you £23 a month more to have over the Mazda, thats £276 a year more.

    So your 'rant' at Vauxhall in my opinion is totally pointless.

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    You know what? Your absolutely correct. I guess a case of opening mouth before engaging brain

    We have done the maths at work and discovered that in fact the tax difference between my existing Mazda 6 (21K list) and a new Insignia (27K) is only £25 a month roughly.

    Sorry for rant. I shall make it up buy ordering an Insignia!

    This is what i'm going for :

    Insignia SRi VX-Line Nav
    160 Ecoflex Engine
    Exec Pack
    Flex Ride

    Just waiting a price from fleet

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    Ooo that's interesting, now the car configurator will not allow you to option flex-ride with the Ecoflex engine

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    Flexride:

    7 = Standard on 2.0i 16v Turbo and 4X4 models. Not available on 1.8i 16v VVT or 2.0CDTi 16v (160PS) ecoFLEX models.

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    Default Flexride & Ecoflex

    DaveDempsey - I ordered my Insignia in November, spec is: Elite Ecoflex with Flexride, Bluetooth, DVD800 and 19" alloys. Despite a number of people informing me via the insignia-enthusiast forum that this spec is not available, when questioned, my dealer (Perry's) has assured me it was available at the time of order and has been ordered - got SONO number and is currently at Event 25. Guide delivery date of early March. Before I ordered it through Perry's I specced the vehicle up using the online configuator, however I noticed that this option was removed from the configurator early January.
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    When did you order the car? Ill check back and check if it was available at the time of order.

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