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    My Bro has been told they are changing his company car in a few weeks, a year early?, on that they have told him that it now will come with a tracker, satnav (as one unit) and a speed limiter, to a max of 70mph.

    Now he hasn't got an issue with the tracker, although it will log everytime the engine starts, turned off, also acceleration and braking force to name a few, it just means he cant stop off on the way home at a DIY store or pick the kids up from the in-laws.

    But the limiter... now there is a topic for discussion. As he does 000's each year this is the only bit hes miffed at. His mate just got his identical motor with a nice sticker on the rear Max 70MPH.
    The question he asked and I havnt a clue, " but I know man who might" yes guys thats you!...

    In your opinion will it be ECU/Electonic restricted or mechanical??

    By that, can they restrict the ECU etc on a Focus 1.6 TDCi Est? or does it have to be a mechanical device.
    Now many years ago I had a resticted works 4x4 which had a clip in the acclerator cable, im guessing to limit pedal travel, a quick fix to restore normal service ;-).

    What are your thoughts, can it be removed increased a little?

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    It will be the ECU im afraid. It will pull all the way upto 70 and it will be like hitting a brick wall lol.

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    Oh dear... im guessing there no way to overcome this then?

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    Could he not argue that this is dangerous? I know for a fact I have accelerated out of danger before!!!

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    The company wont discuss it, Their statement:-

    "Its for insurance and commercial reasons, vechicle have been restricted to the maximum permitted speed in the UK." (speedo not actual)

    Although they have just been informed, Each line manager has been sent a link to the trackers firm, so that they can check where the staff are at any time, day or night and it even reports "use by exception rule" or similar, where if the car is started after 6pm or before 6am, a full log is generated and emailed to the manager to review.. again not a big issue. None have complained about the tracker strangely... only the limiter.

    So the ECU could be modded then?

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    I imagine its probably just a setting in the ECU that says don't allow the car to go above 70. With the right kit you could change it to 100 for example or remove it. I don't think the company would take too kindly to it. Surely even if you removed the limiter, perhaps the tracker might report top speed?

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    Another consideration if he does find a way around it, is whether or not the tracking system logs the cars speed as well.

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    easy fix, what he needs to do is go and ask his boss for a P45 Kit, this will let him drive as fast as he likes....

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    This is becoming a popular sales option on new commercial vehicles (that don't otherwise have a mechanical or electrical limiter)
    I was recently offered this on our order for Ford Tourneo, at an additional £108 (ex VAT) per vehicle
    I found it made no difference to the commercial insurance premium

    However, I can understand the commercial reasons
    We compared the MPG on one standard and one limited vehicle throughout 2009/2010, the total saving was about 8% (including differences in travel time and staff costs)
    That alone pays for the additional cost of implementing the limiter

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    This is becoming a popular sales option on new commercial vehicles (that don't otherwise have a mechanical or electrical limiter)
    I was recently offered this on our order for Ford Tourneo, at an additional £108 (ex VAT) per vehicle
    I found it made no difference to the commercial insurance premium

    However, I can understand the commercial reasons
    We compared the MPG on one standard and one limited vehicle throughout 2009/2010, the total saving was about 8% (including differences in travel time and staff costs)
    That alone pays for the additional cost of implementing the limiter
    I guess this is the real reason, and with fuel costs rising quickly this is a simple fix, cant blame them for this. It also has to do with travel as the guys are all over with Sat/Navs all the trend and having to be left in the cars, its another risk done away with and all have most of the customer POI's updates every service, easy way to manage and minimise getting "lost".

    As for the speed, it was only to increase to around 80 (SPEEDO) mph.. Just asked, the tracker does peak MPH on each journey too. maybe not worth it then.... but as he says on the call out there always a reason to be delayed never quick!
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