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    Default Asbestos use/c;utch brake problems

    Hi folks, new here so this may be a little long winded but would appreciate any input. I preface this with the fact which will become obvious, I'm a bit of a worrier!

    Basically clutch started clipping on my Opel Vec 2004 (1.6, which I know you guys dont see but how and ever) about 6 weeks ago. Didn't really do anything about it as I had no idea what was wrong, was losing power more progressively and revving high, then it started to smell. About a week or two after the really bad smell started, it finally gave up, AA diagnosed the clutch and it was replaced. Problem solved.

    Not.

    A week since the clutch change, there's still a manky smell comign from the car. Dunno if it's residual smell from the old clutch, the new clutch, or the brakes. Generally gets worse the longer the car is running.

    The smell of the old clutch had been coming into the car through the windscreen blowers and heater for about 2 weeks before, and now again for the last week. It's annoying, toxic, and I'm starting to get seriously concerned that I'm breathing in copious amounts of asbestos. My mechanic says he's happy enough with the car, but insists the pads and clutch are asbestos but isn't 100% sure.

    Is anyone sure for absolutely certain whether asbestos was used in a 2004 car? It's an Opel not a vx so I presume assembled in Germany but I really don't know.

    If the smell that's ongoing is asbestos, will breathing that in through the car ventilation system be toxic, will there be remenant dust still there or in the filter, does it pose a hazard? Nearly afraid to drive the thing at the stage but with all this snow I'm in it 4 hours every day with the blowers on full blast...bad smell all the way at times Obviously its a very small space and theoretically toxic dust is being blow into my face (worst fear).

    Apols for the long post guys, but once again any input much appreciated as to best course of action.

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    Its not asbestos, they stopped using asbestos in brake and clutch linings a long time ago. A mechanic should have known that.

    It will be the residual smell you are getting as you burned it right out until it died lol. Getting rid of it hmmm, it really should go away itself given time.

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    As said we are talking decades since Asbestos was last used buddy Don;t worry, but sounds like they havent cleaned something up properly... you can either take it back or let it run its course

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    Half worried about cheap replacements though. Is everything banned, or could mechanics be using dodgy new shoes/pads/clutches? Only have the car three months.

    Appreciate the input though folks, cheers - somewhat relieved!

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    Dont worry mate its highly illegal, even the cheapest replacement parts adhere to that.

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    no asbestos is banned outright thats why discs dont last long any more 2/3 sets of pads = new discs vauxhall sell them as sets now so they dont run out

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    Modern clutches typically use an compound organic resin with copper wire facing or a ceramic material. A typical coefficient of friction used on a friction disc surface is 0.35ų for organic and 0.25ų for ceramic. Ceramic materials are typically used in heavy applications such as trucks carrying large loads or racing, though the harder ceramic materials increase flywheel and pressure plate wear.

    Asbestos was widely used in pads for its heat resistance, but due to health risks has been replaced with alternative materials, such as mineral fibers, cellulose, aramid, PAN, chopped glass, steel, and copper fibers.

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    Cheers guys. Mind at ease, much appreciated!

    byebye you must be a mechanic, you know your stuff?

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    Anytime mate, i have done a bit since i left school and done breakdown recovery work aswell ill put my hands up though i got lazy and copy and pasted that from another site to put your mind at ease

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