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    Hi all,

    I have had my vectra for about 6 months now & want to slightly increase the performance. I previously had a Z20LET and can tell there is a difference, obviously I expected some as its diesel.

    Anyway to cut a long story short I have seen people with re-maps and also tuning boxes. I have also looked at the de-restriction mod although I can't see that offering massive gains. What are the pros & cons of tuning boxes/re-maps?

    Ideally I want to get to about 180bhp.

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    Caterman or DTUK will deliver this quite easily and possibly even improve economy to boot!

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    i dont rate tuning boxes, im not saying they dont get results (before the onslought of abuse)
    i think your better with a proper remap.
    airbox mod, K&N panel filter and a good remap culd see you in the region of 185-195bhp 300lbft approx .
    the 150 engine is very tunable and reliable with those mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    i dont rate tuning boxes, im not saying they dont get results (before the onslought of abuse)
    i think your better with a proper remap.
    airbox mod, K&N panel filter and a good remap culd see you in the region of 185-195bhp 300lbft approx .
    the 150 engine is very tunable and reliable with those mods.
    What are the bluefin units like? Only reason I ask is that I would prefer a removable unit/map

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    Give Mas performance a ring, you will find them on the internet. Remap done at your home for £200 ish, this will give you an extra 30bhp est.

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    bluefin is a remap with the ability to take the map on an off. the map gets loaded onto the ecu via the OBD port under your ashtray. once the map is loaded onto the car you remove the handset until you want the map off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    bluefin is a remap with the ability to take the map on an off. the map gets loaded onto the ecu via the OBD port under your ashtray. once the map is loaded onto the car you remove the handset until you want the map off.
    I looked on their website, they estimate it to take the 150 cdti to 178 BHP, only thing is they are £500! Is it worth the price? Does anyone have one on their cdti?

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    these are very common on ford tuning . bluefins aint known for there big gains.
    tbh not worth the price. better with a proper remap from angel tuning etc, maps are undetectable by dealers and when you sell the car they will return it to stock.

    there is a few other companies e.g. dreamscience however they mostly specialize in fords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    maps are undetectable by dealers
    Sorry to rain on anyones parade, but that's a bit of an 'urban myth'.

    http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/tuning-faq.asp

    "Can it be detected?
    Remapping does not involve a physical re-chip as with older vehicles and it will not be apparent on first-glance that your car is remapped. Infact, unless there appears to be a problem when a diagnostic scan is run, or on the first test drive, we don't even need to open the bonnet. However, there are many tuning companies online who state that their remaps are "undetectable" and this simply isn't true. While it may not be physically apparent it is relatively easy to find out by comparing the contents of the ECU with a standard one, by verifying the checksum (a value calculated against the contents of the ECU), and by taking the vehicle for a test drive and taking some logs of the data provided by the ECU. Remapping is NOT undetectable, and don't let anyone tell you different."

    I have to disagree with the reason they give for manufacturers leaving room for a remap in the ECU.

    Manufacturers are quite capable of providing different ECU mapping for different markets that their cars would be sent to, and indeed they do. Which is why we don't get the 100 CDTI Vectra here.
    Last edited by diesel dog; 23rd September 2010 at 17:18.

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    Thats why its better to get a tuning box, they can be removed and are undetectable by the munfacturer.
    Total Vauxhall recommends DTUK, for around £300 you will get 180bhp and more, they have had 220 from an Astra 1.9cdti.
    Miles better than a remap.

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