21st September 2010, 17:50
1.9cdti 150 or 2.8 turbo petrol???
the tiome has come to think about changing my car.
Currently I run a vec b 2.5 GSI which is converted to lpg but it has now dnoe over 150,000 miles and the rust spots/squeaks and clonks are increasing in number so i'm thinking of upgrading to a c again ( used to have 1.9cdti 150).
beeen doing a bit of research and not sure which to go for now.
The deisel will be quite economical and probably not far off my current car performancewise. Maybe better if I get the thorney remap! Tax is reasonable too.
Now the 2.8 turbo has also caught my eye but it comes in 3 different power versions I beleive. 230bhp, 255bhp and 280bhp? what is the difference, is it just a remap or are the engines/turbo's different?
Are the 2.8's much quicker in real terms compared with a remapped deisel?
A lot of the 2.8's seems to be auto's which is a bit of a negative for me apart from the vxr's ( which are out of my price range and bit too in your face and so appealing to thieves for me). I'm looking for around a 2006 model so should hopefully be able to find one at £235 tax instead of £435 so that not such an issue. Also I'd intend to convert it to lpg so fuel economy costs would prob be similar £ per mile as the deisel.
Just wondered what peoples opinions were if the 2 options and which they'd chose really??
21st September 2010, 19:32
21st September 2010, 19:34
One thing I can say for definite is that the 2.8 is wildly quicker than any of the diesels
The 230 and 250bhp are the same but with different software. The 280bhp has an extra hole in the airbox lol.
Any of them remapped will give you a monster of a car.
21st September 2010, 19:36
21st September 2010, 19:44
I like the look of the 200bhp diesel SRI in the thread below yours
21st September 2010, 19:54
21st September 2010, 22:32
Consider what type of driving you mainly do. If its alot of round town, slow driving, short runs then the diesel isnt the best choice, especially if its fitted with a diesel particulate filter (all 1.9 estates and automatic hatches have one)
If i could afford it, i would go for the 2.8T
21st September 2010, 23:10
The Fiat JTD 1.9 will most certainly be better on fuel. Even considering the LPG conversion. Road tax will also be much lower.
There the advantages stop. It's not a good engine. I am really sorry if this upsets anyone, but it's the truth as I see it. I know a lot of people with the 1.9, mainly fitted to Astras, and I can't think of one person who hasn't had problems. That goes for both newer and older cars.
EGR/swirl flap breakdowns are almost universal. They like going through turbos as well. And as for buying a car with a DPF, you must be a real glutton for punishment!! The Zafira 1.9's get them and cause continued concern with that daft light that comes on, and occasionally misery (they are not a cheap thing to replace).
The 2.8, in contrast, is a world class engine. It's actually called the HFV6 LP9 turbo and is fitted to many GM cars worldwide. It is all aluminium (unlike the cast iron stove that is the Fiat 1.9). It's so good it's used in the Insignia VXR and the Saab 95 AWD (a £37k car) :
You will have higher fuel costs and it will cost more to service. But having driven both extensively, there's no contest at all. 2.8 FTW!!
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22nd September 2010, 00:30
22nd September 2010, 00:37
I know about the different suspension. The map is different.
But different cams?
Are you sure?