Idiot driver.

**Desmondo** · 8th September 2010, 21:15

Originally Posted by Gazza4

Your are supposed to sit at the speed limit.

And watch for cars pulling out and slow down for bends. Sitting at 35 in a 60 is just wreckless as doing 90 in a 60.

Gazza4

WRONG, you're supposed to drive at a speed which is safe for the conditions of the road, being prepared to deal with hazards as then enfold and in conjunction with ALL other users on the road

**GazVXLINE170** · 8th September 2010, 21:25

Originally Posted by Desmondo

WRONG, you're supposed to drive at a speed which is safe for the conditions of the road, being prepared to deal with hazards as then enfold and in conjunction with ALL other users on the road

I beg to differ

oh that is what I was saying...

Gazza4

**nokiaman1978** · 8th September 2010, 21:34

so who classed the roads speeds as being 30 mph or 60 mph I also agree as i have said befor it is weather dependant, i adjust my driving to the conditions, but i must say the same people who drive at 35-40 mph on the 60's usualy in the wet i have seen them lower there speed again where i would deem 40 mph a safe speed in the wet on a 60 they reduce their speed even more

**tridley** · 9th September 2010, 07:14

I wonder if any of these drivers are in "limp home" mode having recently experienced this myself?

**Fruit'n'nut** · 9th September 2010, 08:31

Originally Posted by nokiaman1978

they should do away with national speed limit roads and just stick with 20-30-40 and 70 for motorway as no one seems to want to drive at 60 mph on a national, must admit most national roads you cant always do 60 mph safely

Really?

I see plenty of drivers who can maintain 55-60mph on "twisty" NSL single carriageways, never mind the open and sweeping ones. Yes, there are plenty of car drivers who can't, or who think the speed limit is some other figure - but OTOH there's usually an opportunity to overtake these types at some point, then you can forget all about them.

**WilliamLX** · 9th September 2010, 11:14

There is no doubt about it people who drive well below 60 on country NSL roads are a hazzard, however there are such roads were I would rarely go over 40. Just to many twists and turns to do 60 safely. What really bugs me is the driver who does 40mph in NSL stretches but keeps doing 40mph when the road goes through a 30mph villiage etc.

There would be fewer traffic jams and accidents if drivers not confident to do 60mph on most roads, tractors and HGVs/Buses were banned from the road during peak hours. Drastic you may say, but I have lived in Dubai in the UAE, where that is eactly the rule (well not about slow drivers, but lorries and buses etc are not allowed on the road except during the night).

**Grumpy1954** · 9th September 2010, 13:24

Originally Posted by neverlandandy

as for the national speed limit when i was taking lessons way back in 1984 my instructer told me that during my test if i was on a national speed limit road and failed to travel at said speed my examiner would have failed me

Yes, that's what they call "keeping up with the traffic". I asked my instructor what would happen if the traffic was doing 40mph in a 30mph zone and I kept up with them - reply "you'd be failed". I also learnt to drive around St Athans, and if I varied by more than 1mph over or under the limit I had to buy the instructor his breakfast - you soon learn throttle control!

**Ste** · 9th September 2010, 22:41

I know of a NSL road that I have towed a car on at 90 mph at night, when I was younger and 'immortal'. I now see people driving down the same road at 35 mph in clear, dry, daylight conditions with only me and them on the road.

Fustrating is the word, and they do cause people to get more than annoyed and take risks that they really wouldn't normally take just to get past them.

If I can safely exceed the nominal, abritary, posted speed limit, I will. I don't drive recklessly or dangerously, I just like to make progress, but that doesn;t mean driving at 90 on a 60 limit nowadays, maybe 65 - 70.

In fact there is a road near me that it is perfectly capable of driving in excess of a ton without any issue - apart from other road users.

**nokiaman1978** · 9th September 2010, 22:58

Fruit'n'nut I was talking about the roads in my area, your area will be different wasn't trying to start an argument, but might just be me , but anywhere i have driven in say the last month that involves driving on a nsl road I find that very rearely do the people in front do anything near 60 mph in clear dry conditions but as said above once of the nsl they continue at 40 mph it has been mentioned on this forum many times about these constant 40 mph drivers. And about an opertunity to overtake, most nsl in my area this proves to be very difficult as the roads very bendy, but if i can maintain lowest speed on these roads being about 50 mph, and i dont class myself as being a lewis hamilton i dont see why others cant. Must be great in your neck of the woods where people drive properly, today on the way home along a nsl an audi convertable sport model twin exhaust probably producing about 180-190 bhp was toodiling along at between 20-40 mph along the whole road with constant dabs on the brakes with a trail of cars behind it with me being 6 cars behind it. WHY why !!

**Grumpy1954** · 9th September 2010, 23:33

I suppose you have to allow that maybe they don't know the road, or the car, or both.It does get very annoying when they then keep braking for nsl parts of the road I would normally happily take at the speed limit - anyone know the Wolverhampton to Telford "rabbit run", or the back way from Newport to Shrewsbury through Crudginton?
As has been said, often it's very difficult to overtake. Nowadays I usually end up sitting behind them with cruise on, as it isn't worth dying or causing an RTA over 10 or 15 minutes delay