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    confused Remaps???

    I'm going to get my cdti remapped, and have decided it's down to 2 options, the first, and more likely is to get the EDS remap with the IPF unit to allow me to change/update myself, this would be done at Midpoint Garage and also dyno'd at the same time. My second thought is a unit called Emotion from Celtic Tuning, who claim they have 3 options on the box, economy, fast-road which is quoted as 183bhp (I have a 120ps) and an even more aggressive track-day map which the guy on the phone said 20 more bhp!!! I think this is a little optimistic, but would like all opinions.

    Thanks Steve.

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    me and kman247 had our remaps done at ecu evolution in Northampton . no rolling road but they say it had got about 36bhp/71lb of torque for 150 pounds .im well happy with it .was looking at having a bluefin /superchips one which dez has and you can take it off/and back on again when you like . khalid

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    183 BHP on a 120, sounds very OTT. I have the EDS-IPF on my 150 and currently run the 190.

    The EDS maps are very well regarded and I for one will vouch for them. Very smooth and refined, plus the option to disable EGR. A word of warning with the IPF, not the most reliable of methods and can wipe your ECU. I have had to remove and send my ECU twice, to Regal Autosport after it wiped my ECU whilst reprogramming......only used 3 times so not been very happy in all honesty, as it is not clear why tis is happening. On both ocassions I sent the ECU away and had it returned within days.....remapped for me......but if you rely on your car, be warned!

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    i reread this again .thought he had a 150 .but dont think you will get 183 from a 120. khalid

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    If it's the EDS option, I'm getting it done by Ian at MPG on the rollers, he said he could do me a printout before and after, and with the difference only being about 100 quid, I think it's the safest option to get the software installed professionally the first time at least. I'm not likely to want to change it, just nice to have the option.

    On a slightly different note, if I have the EGR off map, will this have a detrimental effect on the old DPF, as mine is a bus!!!

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    iv got a 2.0dti and was thinking about getting it either remapped or a chip, sombody says i can get a chip something that ends in 44 i think and its 190 quid with no fitting. I can only afford insurance on this car atm as iv only just 18 and was just thinking what is better a chip or a remap, And is their even point in getting it on my car?
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    It never ceases to amaze me how much fuel some 'tuners' claim to be able to cram into the cylinder of a diesel engine and still expect it to be able combust properly.

    Have a look at this before you decide to do tuning of any kind.

    http://www.standardtransmission.com/dmf.html

    Not saying that it will, but it could. And there is plenty of evidence to say that it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPC View Post
    183 BHP on a 120, sounds very OTT. I have the EDS-IPF on my 150 and currently run the 190.

    The EDS maps are very well regarded and I for one will vouch for them. Very smooth and refined, plus the option to disable EGR. A word of warning with the IPF, not the most reliable of methods and can wipe your ECU. I have had to remove and send my ECU twice, to Regal Autosport after it wiped my ECU whilst reprogramming......only used 3 times so not been very happy in all honesty, as it is not clear why tis is happening. On both ocassions I sent the ECU away and had it returned within days.....remapped for me......but if you rely on your car, be warned!
    Quote Originally Posted by happypostie View Post
    i reread this again .thought he had a 150 .but dont think you will get 183 from a 120. khalid
    183bhp from a 120bhp 1.9CDTi is reasonable and has happened. The 1.9CDTi has three variants.
    The 1.9CDTi 8v is only 120bhp
    The 1.9CDTi 16v 120bhp
    And the 1.9CDTi 16v 150bhp.
    If you have the 8v engine, then unfortunately you will only get somewhere around the 150bhp mark. However, the 16v 120bhp engine has been detuned by Vauxhall themselves and so, when remapped, you will get whatever the 16v 150bhp engine would get (results wise).
    There are a few of us on here that have been to MPG and most are happy with their remaps. Hope this helps

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    Mine is the 8v engine, but Ian at MPG, who is very knowlegable, said that the top map on the EDS system should achieve around 170bhp which I think is pretty truthful, and I'd be well happy with an extra 50!!! Should be high 200's for the torque figure too...

    Has anyone tried Celtic tuning at all?

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    Beware of maps (and boxes) that give peaky torque delivery. You want as flat a torque curve as possible.

    It's better to have 250 ft/lbs torque in a nice steady curve than it is to have a high peak of torque of say 290 ft/lbs and then a significant drop either side of that.

    http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=188462

    "A 250 ft lb diesel with a flat torque curve goes better than a 291 ft lb diesel with a peaky curve, in most situations."

    Also remember that acceleration follows the torque curve exactly. It's the torque that you can 'feel', not bhp.
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