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    Not a happy camper, and hope someone else has had the same prob!!

    Recently put a set of 19" Fox alloys on the veccie. To our horror, new front brake pads were desperately needed, which were fitted at my work today (I'm Greg's missus and work for a Vx dealer! Handy!). The blooming wheels went back on ok, but then disaster!!

    The tech took it to the end of the road to check the brakes were not squealing anymore, and the wheels began to jam!! Got it on the ramps carefully, and the wheels are catching on the calipers, scoring the back of them and causing visible rough metal bits on the front!! They would not turn without force!! The new pads appeared to have pushed the calipers so far apart, the wheels wouldn't move at all. Had to contact the supplier of the wheel, who gave me SPACERS!!! 3mm I think they were. We (sorry, Greg) spent a fortune on them a few weeks ago, and now they are ruined!!

    Please tell me someone else has had this problem with 19"s!! The supplier of the wheels is sure they are the correct offset, but surely they canny be!!

    Please help!! Sorry for rambling, but very confused!!

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    oh hell you must be gutted dosen't sound like they where the right offset to me mrs greg ive not got 19s but have 18s on mines and there is bags of room for the caiipers to move .iif i where you i would be trying to get a new set of wheels of your supplier (were did you get them from )

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    I would say that the dealer has sold the wrong offset, and this is the problem... check the offset on the wheels and if they are wrong you have cause for compensation from the dealer (or even a replacement) as they have sold you something which is not fit for purpose.

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    As above, the supplying dealer has sold the wrong wheels for the car and should replace them.

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    Yep, what he just said. ^^^

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    How'd you get on Gemma????

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    19'' rims should have an offset of et45 !!!!



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    AHH!!!

    the man that knows!!!

    well done fella




    is that what you were sold Gemma??

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    My 19`s were et35, as are VXR 19`s so there is plenty of room to play with, they must be a way out, 45 or higher, which is unusual size, Are you sure the callipers are on right ?? Or more likely it`s the shape of the back of the wheel, the offset could be ok but the spokes of the wheel are closer to the callipers than on other wheels ??

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    I don’t want to put a damper on things but its not the offset that the problem, as Bainie has also suggested. This is a common problem that only surfaces when big brakes, big wheels and interchanging etc occurs. I’ll explain.

    The offset is the measurement that the actual rim of the wheel sits out from the car. Its measured from the face of the hub. Even with a lower offset, eg, going from say a 38 to a 35 (3mm) may still not solve the problem. I agree with Tommy as the problem here is the design of the wheel. The spokes are obviously quite thick or shaped in such a way that they foul the calipers. This is something that not every wheel manufacturer can be faulted for as unless they test the wheels on every single car, with brand new brake pads, they would never know. Added to the fact that certain wheel fitments cover a massive range of cars then it becomes a massive task. My 18's are very close to the caliper so im praying the same doesnt happen when i replace my pads

    The quick/cheap solution is as the wheel manufacturer has proposed, spacers. This pushes the whole wheel outwards and will also change the offset. Not the best solution but a recognized and cheap fix. The more expensive solution is to have the wheels machined to shave off some metal on the back of the spokes allowing the correct offset to be maintained but also the clearance for the calipers.

    The other option is to shave some metal from the caliper body. Its quite thick so taking a mm or two wont cause a problem, but obviously this something that needs doing with care.

    The problem often arises when people fit big brakes and then find they foul the alloys. I had a mate who ended up having some wheels specially made by speedline to clear his 300mm brakes on his mk2 Astra.

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