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    Angry what price?

    Long story short I bought a reg 52 Vectr-C and paid £2000 for it as it was in great condition had recent MOT TAX and 67000 miles on it. After I received my Log book I decided to trace the history of this great car. Sadly I was shocked to discover that 3 years earlier the mileage was 92000 a staggering 25000 more than the clock had on now. The person I bought it from had an MOT 3 weeks after ownership and mileage was 53,000 yet sales records from an auction 3 weeks previous to the last owners purchase the auction house logged the mileage at plus 92000. so thats 40,000 off the clock!
    I have contacted trading standards and they have told me to make a claim against the seller. Which I will do I just need to know what that claim should be. I want to keep the car so not giving it back!
    How much would you guys ask for from the seller before (instead) you take them to court? After all i have no true knowledge of the actual mileage so even if i did want to sell in a couple of years the re-sale will be near impossible with a fake mileage. So in short how much is the value of a 52 reg vec-c with over 110,000 miles on clock. I intend to ask for the difference, from what i paid. Plus if this does go to court i need to show that im asking for a genuine value.
    your advise and quotes for the value of the car would be appreciated.

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    thread on here somewhere this happened to moony i think
    found it
    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93982

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    I'd call the police and ask their advice too.
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    sorry to hear that is ryan. isnt the millage stored anywhere else apart from the clocks to find out the true millage

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    Ryan - sorry to hear of your predicament

    can you not view the past 4/5 mots to see what the mileages were recorded at then just to clarify if it has indeed been clocked??

    i am aware of mileages being incorrectly recorded by auction houses and indeed MOT testing stations before with similar horror stories??

    realistically you need to speak to/go to an independant garage (preferably a vauxhall specialist/main dealer) sales department and let them look at your car.... tell them that you expect the car has been clocked
    and then ask them if they can give you the following info

    price to retail

    price on part exchange

    and if possible what they would expect the car would be worth on a private sale

    based on both mileages that you have - current and worse recorded


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    mate sorry but thread is heading towards HMIIW thread and forums rules state these are not allowed no disrespect intended to any of our members but if your going down the road to sue some one and they ask you where you got your valuation from and you say dave off vectra-c forums,they will more than likely laugh at you.
    Best to get it valued at a garage and get a written valuation if you can.
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    I did get previous MOT online and from memory as id have to log back into the site to see and im typing this now and on way out so no time to look. 5 years of MOT was available including the one I have now.
    the mileage went like 80-90-53-64k so it was well clocked

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    Get legal advise mate

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    If the mileage has been tampered with and you can prove that the owner before the last one was on the proper numbers.. I am sure that the person who sold you the car is liable! Just incase I always print out a statement for them to sign saying they know of no damage, mechanical failures etc so I have a bit more of a leg to stand on...

    Private sellers are liable for a lot more than most people realise when it comes to selling cars. Was the last owner the one who bought it at auction (i.e. if your the 3rd owner I would say it was lol)

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    P.S. the standard mileage I think is stored in the ECU... so if you have the balls to find out what your really running on...

    And if the last owner has changed anything it is probably the clocks... which would mean they have knowingly sold the car on false mileage = fraud! do 'em!

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