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    Default M.O.T Fail for LED Bulbs

    My car failed its M.O.T. this morning for having LED bulbs in the side lights and number plate lights

    They actually failed the car and issued the pink VT30, i thought they might do it as advisory

    What are your views on this? do you have them fitted and have passed/failed your M.O.T.?

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    I had 'em fitted, and had the "xenon headlight bulbs" fitted too, he told me to change 'em both, but didn't put as advisory, or fail!

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    Forgot to mention he warned me not to refit them when i get home as the car has been noted for this defect and could result in prosecution from the boys in blue and even void my insurance

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    they arent illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by john-d View Post
    they arent illegal
    Unless of course they were an odd colour, say police blue, or yellow or something?

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    Mine passed with LED sidelights fitted. They are white, and other than being LED they are no different to incandescent lamps. Passed without any mention of them.

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    From the DFT website:

    1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

    2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

    3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.

    In practice this means:

    1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.



    2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

    3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

    Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

    In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.


    Important notes i've highlighted in BOLD. Maybe this is what they're failing you for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterboy View Post
    From the DFT website:

    1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

    2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

    3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.

    In practice this means:

    1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.



    2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

    3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

    Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

    In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.


    Important notes i've highlighted in BOLD. Maybe this is what they're failing you for?
    He's on about LED's not HID's!

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    In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
    Oh *X*X ....I've just ordered a set

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    my focus passed with led side lights, just white ones, not blues!

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