Vectra VXR vs Mondeo ST220 vs Mazda 6 MPS......which one and why??

vectra_c_wannabe · 1st September 2009, 14:43

hello people

just curious as to the above question, it has nothing to do with the old top gear test that clarkson did as he's a top bloke but very biased to the vectra and didnt make a clear choice at the end.

Anyway i will be changing the vec in like a years time which i agree is ages away but gives me a chance to pick exactly what i want and when the perfect one comes along if i buy earlier than expected so be it.

personally atm i think that the vectra is the best looking and undoubtably the fastest standard, The mazda is best for being a grown up with putting the power down with 4WD (but 4wd is dull as its too sensible mayby?) however it is the ugliest and smallest boot! whereas the ST220 is the slowest but good looking and with a huge choice of used about??

I think 10-12k will buy a:

10-20k VXR
10-15K MPS
10-40K ST

(mileage wise)

so all are very similar?!?!?!

so which would you have and why??
(presuming you could be arsed to read all that rubbish)

Old man Jimbo · 1st September 2009, 15:00

Well I am of course biased as I own a VXR estate but IMHO it's handling is fantastic and I still can't get over how good it is for a very very big car!

Power is more than enough to get you into much trouble with the law and a sub £500 remap gets you into super-car territory if you feel you need it.

As for the lack of traction (2WD rather than 4WD) I doubt apart from very poor weather it makes a huge difference as the on board traction and stability computers are epically good. I've yet to be shaken off by the so called rally derived rice rockets..

In a nutshell I'm gobsmacked by how good they are and it's by a long way the best value car I have EVER bought and I am a miserable get...

Oh VXR's are dead rare as well

Big Sig · 1st September 2009, 15:01

Mazda simply because it is 4wd. They drive and handle like they should, not so much torque steer or understeer like you get with powerful front wheel drives.

spoons · 1st September 2009, 15:02

I'd have the Vectra VXR...

Great all rounder... Comfortable, good 5 seater, big boot, very tuneable at small cost, rare

Wouldnt have the Mondeo ST220 as its not very tunable, slow, and its a Mondeo

Might have the Mazda but wouldnt want the 4x4 weight, or tyre costs

So... Vectra VXR it is then

Daywalker · 1st September 2009, 15:05

VXR for me thats what im aiming for in a few years time with a remap

vectra_c_wannabe · 1st September 2009, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old man Jimbo

Well I am of course biased as I own a VXR estate but IMHO it's handling is fantastic and I still can't get over how good it is for a very very big car!

Power is more than enough to get you into much trouble with the law and a sub £500 remap gets you into super-car territory if you feel you need it.

As for the lack of traction (2WD rather than 4WD) I doubt apart from very poor weather it makes a huge difference as the on board traction and stability computers are epically good. I've yet to be shaken off by the so called rally derived rice rockets..

In a nutshell I'm gobsmacked by how good they are and it's by a long way the best value car I have EVER bought and I am a miserable get...

Oh VXR's are dead rare as well

you make a strong case for the VXR however i would like to disagree with the VXR's being rare i have seen more VXR's than mps's however i have only ever seen 6 VXR's so not much difference haha

And "spoons" if thats a photo of your black VXR im practically dribblin, its stunning and very very shiny!!!

spoons · 1st September 2009, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by vectra_c_wannabe

you make a strong case for the VXR however i would like to disagree with the VXR's being rare i have seen more VXR's than mps's however i have only ever seen 6 VXR's so not much difference haha

1001 Vectra VXR's were made for the UK... and thats it !

You may see loads of VXR Corsa's, Astras, Merivas, Zafiras etc... but not many Vectra VXR's

Quote:

Originally Posted by vectra_c_wannabe

And "spoons" if thats a photo of your black VXR im practically dribblin, its stunning and very very shiny!!!

It is

... and thank you

Andy79 · 1st September 2009, 16:17

Sorry to say....VXR

, Only owned mine for nearly 2 weeks now and almost covered 1300 miles, hasnt missed a beat, power when you want it great fun, very comfy and roomy. Handles very well for a big old bus not sure about the wet though but fitting an LSD and lowering springs will help sort that.

A bit thirsty im getting about 17mpg round town but i do have a heavy foot....Did get 34mpg on the motorway at 80mph.

Good speck, things to look for as optional extras Satnav/ AFL lights/ duel zone climate control/ full leather with heated seats/ 19" alloys

They are a very smooth drive and power delivery is great you dont get that almighty turbo lag then boom it just all comes together nicely.

Mine is the 255bhp model on a 56 plate, later models were 280 bhp...but as mentioned a £500 remap can get you in the figures of 300 ish bhp and 400 ish foot of torque.

Great cars great drive but i would say that as i own one...only downside is the ****** tax but for the fun its worth it

Voxer · 1st September 2009, 16:50

VXR all the way m8, ST220 is very old now and way off the mark performance wise compared to the MPS never mind the Vec.

The VXR has better Looks, Interior and far better performance, oh and the only journalist to completely slate it was Clarkson, Evo magazine tested it against the BMW 330I, Subaru STI and Evo 320 and the only one they rated above the Vec was the Evo and that was the 255 version.

ST220............0-60 - 6.9

MPS...............0-60 - 6.6

VXR...............0-60 - 6.1 (6.5 255 version) (Mapped 5.3 for both)

M8 there is no other choice.

vectra_c_wannabe · 1st September 2009, 17:26

i wonder if i posted the same question on the MPS owners club would i get a different response

the vec is much faster and always will be but just out of curiosity and not atall related to the dilemma whats the most powerful modified vxr vec yet?? i would love to see a vectra ruin a E46 BMW M3 but they have 43bhp more than a 300brake remapped vec???

anyway back on target im just picking VXR owners brains now

whats it like when you have finished clowning around and guzzling fuel does it easily slip back into refinement mode where its quiet and easy to live with every day??

i agree the ST220 is dated and by far the slowest but i have a soft spot for it.

then again if i was driving a st220 and a vxr rolled up beside me i would feel pretty inadequete (spelling

) and wish i had got a vxr instead and mayby have the same feel in the mazda but less-so!!

However if in a VXR and a mazda and st220 rolled up alongside i would feel smug about my extra 20ish brake on an mps!?!?!

View Poll Results: VXR vs MPS vs ST220
VECTRA VXR	152	71.70%
MAZDA 6 MPS	42	19.81%
ST220	18	8.49%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

1st September 2009, 14:43	#1
vectra_c_wannabe Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridgeshire iTrader Rating: (3)	Vectra VXR vs Mondeo ST220 vs Mazda 6 MPS......which one and why?? hello people just curious as to the above question, it has nothing to do with the old top gear test that clarkson did as he's a top bloke but very biased to the vectra and didnt make a clear choice at the end. Anyway i will be changing the vec in like a years time which i agree is ages away but gives me a chance to pick exactly what i want and when the perfect one comes along if i buy earlier than expected so be it. personally atm i think that the vectra is the best looking and undoubtably the fastest standard, The mazda is best for being a grown up with putting the power down with 4WD (but 4wd is dull as its too sensible mayby?) however it is the ugliest and smallest boot! whereas the ST220 is the slowest but good looking and with a huge choice of used about?? I think 10-12k will buy a: 10-20k VXR 10-15K MPS 10-40K ST (mileage wise) so all are very similar?!?!?! so which would you have and why?? (presuming you could be arsed to read all that rubbish)

1st September 2009, 15:00	#2
Old man Jimbo Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cumbria iTrader Rating: (0)	Well I am of course biased as I own a VXR estate but IMHO it's handling is fantastic and I still can't get over how good it is for a very very big car! Power is more than enough to get you into much trouble with the law and a sub £500 remap gets you into super-car territory if you feel you need it. As for the lack of traction (2WD rather than 4WD) I doubt apart from very poor weather it makes a huge difference as the on board traction and stability computers are epically good. I've yet to be shaken off by the so called rally derived rice rockets.. In a nutshell I'm gobsmacked by how good they are and it's by a long way the best value car I have EVER bought and I am a miserable get... Oh VXR's are dead rare as well __________________ Ken-tec FTW.

1st September 2009, 15:05	#5
Daywalker Full Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Getting there iTrader Rating: (2)	*VXR for me thats what im aiming for in a few years time with a remap* __________________ Air box mod,lowered on B4's & 30mm eibachs,gold calipers,irmy mesh grill, re-badged,blue & green dash conversion,irmy plate holders,irmy spoilers,19" Innovit DTM wheels,black angel eyes,HID's.

1st September 2009, 16:17	#8
Andy79 Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: plymouth iTrader Rating: (0)	Sorry to say....VXR, Only owned mine for nearly 2 weeks now and almost covered 1300 miles, hasnt missed a beat, power when you want it great fun, very comfy and roomy. Handles very well for a big old bus not sure about the wet though but fitting an LSD and lowering springs will help sort that. A bit thirsty im getting about 17mpg round town but i do have a heavy foot....Did get 34mpg on the motorway at 80mph. Good speck, things to look for as optional extras Satnav/ AFL lights/ duel zone climate control/ full leather with heated seats/ 19" alloys They are a very smooth drive and power delivery is great you dont get that almighty turbo lag then boom it just all comes together nicely. Mine is the 255bhp model on a 56 plate, later models were 280 bhp...but as mentioned a £500 remap can get you in the figures of 300 ish bhp and 400 ish foot of torque. Great cars great drive but i would say that as i own one...only downside is the ****** tax but for the fun its worth it

1st September 2009, 15:01	#3
Big Sig Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 6'6 and back in the gym :) iTrader Rating: (4)	Mazda simply because it is 4wd. They drive and handle like they should, not so much torque steer or understeer like you get with powerful front wheel drives.

1st September 2009, 15:02	#4
spoons Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: A VXR is for life...... not just for Christmas iTrader Rating: (12)	I'd have the Vectra VXR... Great all rounder... Comfortable, good 5 seater, big boot, very tuneable at small cost, rare Wouldnt have the Mondeo ST220 as its not very tunable, slow, and its a Mondeo Might have the Mazda but wouldnt want the 4x4 weight, or tyre costs So... Vectra VXR it is then

1st September 2009, 16:50	#9
Voxer Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland iTrader Rating: (0)	VXR all the way m8, ST220 is very old now and way off the mark performance wise compared to the MPS never mind the Vec. The VXR has better Looks, Interior and far better performance, oh and the only journalist to completely slate it was Clarkson, Evo magazine tested it against the BMW 330I, Subaru STI and Evo 320 and the only one they rated above the Vec was the Evo and that was the 255 version. ST220............0-60 - 6.9 MPS...............0-60 - 6.6 VXR...............0-60 - 6.1 (6.5 255 version) (Mapped 5.3 for both) M8 there is no other choice.

1st September 2009, 17:26	#10
vectra_c_wannabe Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridgeshire iTrader Rating: (3)	i wonder if i posted the same question on the MPS owners club would i get a different response the vec is much faster and always will be but just out of curiosity and not atall related to the dilemma whats the most powerful modified vxr vec yet?? i would love to see a vectra ruin a E46 BMW M3 but they have 43bhp more than a 300brake remapped vec??? anyway back on target im just picking VXR owners brains now whats it like when you have finished clowning around and guzzling fuel does it easily slip back into refinement mode where its quiet and easy to live with every day?? i agree the ST220 is dated and by far the slowest but i have a soft spot for it. then again if i was driving a st220 and a vxr rolled up beside me i would feel pretty inadequete (spelling ) and wish i had got a vxr instead and mayby have the same feel in the mazda but less-so!! However if in a VXR and a mazda and st220 rolled up alongside i would feel smug about my extra 20ish brake on an mps!?!?!